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IS RUSSIA CLOSING THE CAULDRON AROUND BAKHMUT?
Sonar21 ^ | 25 Feb 23 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 02/26/2023 2:27:58 PM PST by delta7

Here are a couple of big picture maps showing the current position of Russian and Ukrainian forces in Bakhmut and the surrounding area. As you can see the Russians (i.e., the Wagner Group) are making rapid advances after months of slow progress and appear to be on the verge of a tactical encirclement of the Ukrainian units.

It is important to understand the terrain of the Bakhmut area. The photos below show a landscape that reminds me of the state I grew up in — Missouri. Rolling hills, farmland and light forest that surround small cities. The first photo is looking north and shows the positions of the Russian and Ukrainian forces in the area. This area is not easily traversed by tanks. This is why artillery is the preferred weapon for dislodging units dug in on ridges and along the roads.

What makes the situation so desperate for Ukrainian forces at the moment is that they have been forced from their fortified entrenchments and are seeking shelter in temporary fox holes and tree lines.

Here is an update from today describing the developing situation:

There are reports of Wagner approaching Bogdanovka (west of Bakhmut) which increases the threat of encirclement.

The 2nd map shows approximate number of Ukrainian units in the same area.

The ones in yellow circle would be able to withdraw (unless they decide otherwise) The ones in the red circle will be in a difficult position.

It’s said that General Slursky arrived in Bakhmut to oversee the withdrawal of the more combat ready units, leaving territorial defence units to hold the rear After months of predictions of Ukraine retreating from Bakhmut it appears the moment is nigh. One of the key unanswered questions is how many Ukrainian soldiers will be captured and how many will escape. Regardless, this will mark another phase for Russia in its Ukrainian campaign to demilitarize and denazify. Ukraine’s next line of defense to the west (Kramatorsk and Seversk) is problematic because it sits in low ground and will be more vulnerable to Russian artillery.

In normal times the setback in Bakhmut would cause the U.S. and NATO to reassess the wisdom of its continued support for Ukraine and look for an escape route. But these are not normal times. It is more likely that the NATO crew will become more hysterical and double down on their support for Ukraine, including trying to accelerate the delivery of long range missiles which will further antagonize Russia. In short, the war will continue.


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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Unlike Russia Ukraine almost never publishes casualties

Since they don’t it could imply zero

So I assume they are lying and that their casualties are over zero

I’ve seen the vids of street conscription of kids

I’m sure z bots will claim those are lies

But if true it indicates Ukraine are severe

Limited war of special military operation is over pretty much though Russia still hasn’t Grozny attacked major uke cities

Except for arty duels in the Donbas


81 posted on 02/26/2023 11:37:57 PM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: absalom01

They parked there to intimidate them to settle a deal

We Jinxed that

Uke negotiators last month as much admitted it

If Russia wanted Kiev finished it would be rubble


82 posted on 02/26/2023 11:41:11 PM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: volunbeer
Putin is clearly the best ruler Russia has ever had since Tsar Peter, the Russian people are vastly better off with him than they ever were in the hundred years prior, and he would win any election that could possibly be held in Russia with nearly 90% of the vote. The Russian people now understand that this conflict is existential for them and are nearly 100% on board with it.

Putin may be managing some vast store of wealth for the sake of Russia but his lifestyle is not ostentatious and is mainly dictated by duty. He is plainly the best national leader in the world today.

83 posted on 02/27/2023 2:10:39 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: wardaddy

The point is the Russian juggernaut was stopped and defeated. And now they are become a terrible serpent that is eating its own tail and bit by bit consuming itself.


84 posted on 02/27/2023 3:16:09 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

Some of the Putin Pukes are still trying to claim that the massive attack on the multi-axis of advance toward Kiev was a “feint”. Others cannot make the claim because they were saying Kiev would fall within days.

It was not a feint. A feint would not have penetrated so far and would not have sacrificed such massive amounts of equipment, including undamaged self-propelled artillery that was simply abandoned because it could not be driven back.


85 posted on 02/27/2023 3:27:20 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Monterrosa-24

They are posessed by the demons of hubris and pride and lack the sense to admit defeat when defeated. Therefore they must be humiliated.

And they shall be.


86 posted on 02/27/2023 3:59:50 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

That’s kind of what they said about the 101st in Bastogne as well.


87 posted on 02/27/2023 4:02:12 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: MeganC
They are posessed by the demons of hubris and pride and lack the sense to admit defeat when defeated. Therefore they must be humiliated.

Are you talking about the russian mafiosos or the uke pedos? Maybe with any luck they'll completely annihilate each other and the world will be a better place.

88 posted on 02/27/2023 4:02:16 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: MeganC

Have any actual information, or just snorting around again - like some sow.

It’s a rhetorical question - SOW.


89 posted on 02/27/2023 5:38:14 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: AAABEST

All three stories were posted here on FR. The one about Poland in just the last week or so.


90 posted on 02/27/2023 6:29:39 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

Defeated my ass they never attacked Kiev

I think they were trying to threaten the Ukraine into a treaty and the United States and Brussels thwarted that

A few Ukrainian sappers heading there column occasionally there’s hardly defeat when they never attack the capital

They withdrew and concentrated in the east which has been Putin stated Aim forever

To claim there was a battle for Kyiv and that Russia was defeated is this nonsensical is everything else globalist media says about this stupid war and MeGmail mistake it’s a real War now

Not some limited somewhat cosmetic war I mean what kind of war is it where you don’t bomb the crap out of the enemy if you have the capability

They are still doing that by the way it’s an amped up war no question of that

But the major cities outside of the east still have power because Russia is holding back


91 posted on 02/27/2023 9:08:01 AM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: wardaddy

“Defeated my ass they never attacked Kiev”

Then like you say you’re an ass. And I agree with your profound and accurate self-ASSessment.

Here’s the news from a year ago:

“Russia begins assault on Kyiv amid fierce fighting across Ukraine as U.S. sanctions Putin”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd_Fu6P8ZXw

“Strike hits TV tower in Kyiv as Russia ramps up assault on key Ukrainian cities”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/01/europe/ukraine-russia-invasion-tuesday-intl-hnk/index.html

Ukraine war: Kyiv prepares for Russian attack

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60714515

“Ukraine: Why has Russia’s 64km convoy near Kyiv stopped moving?”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60596629

“Ukrainian Capital (aka Kyiv) Rocked by Explosions as Russia Intensifies Attack”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-attacks-ukraine-drawing-broad-condemnation-11645682406


92 posted on 02/27/2023 9:42:50 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

Pure propaganda

A parked column thirty miles from the capital is not an assault nor a defeat

You Globalists always go personal because besides western media you now suddenly worship you have little else


93 posted on 02/27/2023 9:47:52 AM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: wardaddy
If Russia wanted Kiev finished it would be rubble

 

 

Yup.

94 posted on 02/27/2023 10:17:11 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: ought-six
Then you haven’t been following this war since Day One.

 

Well, not obsessively.  But enough to have observed the following claims made by the western media, the Ukrainian regime, and our own politicians of both parties, and various heads of state of EU countries.  In no particular order:

1. The Russians thought they could roll over Ukraine in 3 days.  Or a week.  But in any case it would be quick and easy.

2. Russia aimes to occupy the entire territory of Ukraine, including Kiev,

3. The Russians are running out of ammunition (this was in April of last year)

4. The Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive casualties on Russian troops.

 

If there's an offician Russian source that has repeated any of the above claims, I would very much like to be made aware of it, but one would think such information would be easier to find if it was out there.

 

That said, here's what can actually be sourced to official Russian sources:

 

They have not issued a specific timetable for their "special military operation".

They intend to permanently occupy those parts of eastern Ukrain with majority Russian speaking populations.

They intend to install a pro-Russia regime in Ukraine and permanently end any thoughts of NATO expansion into Ukraine.

95 posted on 02/27/2023 10:32:51 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: delta7

interesting article, thanks.
today’s mil summary channel update reports that wagner is storming Bogdanovka. That last supply road keeps getting closer


96 posted on 02/27/2023 11:14:27 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

today’s mil summary channel update reports that wagner is storming Bogdanovka. …
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I like The Military Summary channel also as they use both Russian and Western maps. No doubt the most neutral “ battle map” source around. His event reporting is excellent, such as the huge frequent missile attacks on their AA and electric grid….which all western MSM does not mention. Hindu Times, the Duran also my favorites.

Of course, the emotional brain dead war cheerleaders will never watch. They will wake up soon and realize they have been lied to- like Senile Joe’s Covid vax hoax.


97 posted on 02/27/2023 12:23:48 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Looks like Vlad has at least 11 Ukie battalions trapped. The quicker the better, maybe it will force the Ukies into negotiations.


98 posted on 02/27/2023 12:26:38 PM PST by delta7
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To: Sirius Lee

The good Lord has a way of using evil to destroy evil.


99 posted on 02/27/2023 12:28:12 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

Yup—this is like the pro-vaxxer crowd.

They will deny the harm of the vaccines for as long as they can...

and then hope nobody is paying attention when even the mass media finally admits they were a disaster.


100 posted on 02/27/2023 12:28:49 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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