Posted on 02/18/2023 4:50:22 AM PST by Salman
Red light cameras are simply tools.
If the legal framework in which they are allowed to be used provides no incentive to misusing them, I’m fine with them.
And that would mean that the vendor is paid a flat rate, regardless of the number of citations issued, and that the government receives none of the fines.
Of course, that’s not the legal framework we’re operating in. Currently, the vendor installs the system at no charge, in exchange for a share of the revenues. And that guarantees abuse.
My guess would be that if governments were required to fund the systems up front, few would think it a reasonable deal. But such financing would be necessary, to prevent abuse.
Manassas, Virginia has gone crazy installing red light cameras for “safety”...
...yet that city STILL has traffic signals with a “yellow trap”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_trap
Arizonians put this crap up for a vote with a ballot referendum and ended up running these speed camera azhos and their cameras out of the state.
4 L8r bump
Disagree all you want.
Indeed they are clueless about the boss.
Good. I have somehow been spared them but they absolutely raise my anger level to top end.
If there ever was a reason for the people to fight back this issue (and identity theft) are it, in my opinion.
In a thread on FR a few years ago the lying local government somewhere (saying this is for “safety”) was caught in an exchange where the email from the red light camera company said “You should drop the plan for ——— intersection. There’s not enough traffic to make any money on it.”
“Texas Governor Gregg Abbott just signed legislation here in Texas banning red light cameras.”
they’re not banned in colorado, but legislators made the whole deal a purely civil matter with no criminal consequences ... as a result, it’s up to the jurisdictions to pursue collection via civil processes ...
just ignore the set of letters they send for the first few weeks and be aware that they MIGHT then spend the bucks to try to serve civil papers to appear in civil court and be prepared to dodge service ... i did that very thing, namely, dodged service when an off-duty, moonlighting deputy tried to serve me one early saturday morning ... wife came to the door and said go away ... service HAS to be in person, so that failed ... i figured they’d cut their loses and not want to pay again for another service attempt since they knew they were dealing with someone that knew the score ...
btw, other effective techniques if you travel in a camera city are to wear large dark glasses, a baseball cap pulled low, and/or even a mask ... if they can’t match the driver’s picture to a driver’s license associated with the auto registration, then they won’t even bother to mail the civil fine papers to start with, and if they do, just check the box “not me” ...
“Insurance companies are in on this too as they will raise your rates as you accumulate more of these tickets.”
not in colorado ... cameras are civil matters only, and do not result in driver license points and are NOT reported to insurance companies ...
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