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BobL: "What part of RED LINE do you not understand.
Are you implying that Russia was going to file a claim at the World Court and be done with it?"

Your "red line", Vlad, was not the language of "Dmitry, and Boris, and Gorby", concerning NATO.
Even you, Vlad, did not use the language of "red line" over NATO before your 2014 invasion.
Instead, you hid your invasion under cover of claimed local insurrections in Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk.
The real issue then was not NATO but rather Euro-Maidan protests and the overthrow of your Ukraine puppet, Yanukovych.

BobL: "If the Neocons REFUSE to respect RED LINES, then they get this outcome, and they DESERVE it."

Those are total lies, Vlad, because you long before confessed that "red lines" had NOTHING to do with it, instead, you were moving militarily to "correct" the "mistakes" of Nikita Khruschev in 1954 and Boris Yeltsin in 1991 when Ukraine, including Crimea, was recognized and guaranteed independence by Russia!

Indeed, Vlad, you've forgotten your own history -- in 1994 Russian Pres. Boris Yeltsin wanted to join NATO!!

"In 1994, Russia officially signed up to the NATO Partnership for Peace, a program aimed at building trust between NATO and other European and former Soviet countries.
President Bill Clinton described it in January 1994 as a “track that will lead to NATO membership.”"

As late as 2000 you, Vlad, talked about joining NATO with our president Slick Willie.
Even in 2002 you were cooperating with NATO in the NATO-Russia Council (NRC).
So you weren't violently opposed to NATO, you were fine with it, you just didn't want to meet NATO's standards for admission, starting with open, free and fair elections.
Oh, yeah! Not just every two-bit tin-horn Hitler-wannabe dictator gets to join NATO, no!
You have to be genuinely good people, and if you're not already, then first you have to clean up your act, and, of course, Vlad the Invader is not going to clean up anything, are you?

Bobby boy, whatever you learned from Russians is lies and nonsense, in that they're worse even than our own Democrats.
In fact, Vlad the Invader is simply empire building and therefore he must be defeated, or the world, not just Ukraine, will become a much, much worse place.