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Former top US general: Jets could seal quick Ukraine victory
Deutsche Welle ^ | FEBRUARY 10, 2023 | Saim Dušan Inayatullah, Richard Connor

Posted on 02/10/2023 10:33:19 PM PST by familyop

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To: gathersnomoss

Point of order.....

Precisely where are we in Ukraine?


61 posted on 02/11/2023 6:04:14 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: ArcadeQuarters
Do this one weird escalation to win the war.

Seems like I heard something similar when I was in Vietnam. One more weird escalation, and we will turn the corner.

62 posted on 02/11/2023 6:07:29 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: bert
Well Zelensky's not complaining - as long as you keep filling his coffers...


63 posted on 02/11/2023 6:08:35 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: familyop

Well, Russia has jets. Why haven’t jets sealed a quick Russian victory?


64 posted on 02/11/2023 6:16:25 AM PST by odawg
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To: MarMema

Generally speaking, in my opinion NATO needs to buck up and show preparation for war and strength. That also means we back off the war in Ukraine somewhat. A destabilized Russia (and it’s getting more every day) might be the end of too many of us.


65 posted on 02/11/2023 6:24:06 AM PST by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: familyop

Why the heck can’t we work for a peace settlement or at least a cease fire? This is not some proxy war like Vietnam but a direct conflict with the Russian superpower and escalation could bring a nuclear war. It is ironic that liberal kids and grandkids of the Vietnam protesters who chanted “give peace a chance” are now warmongers.


66 posted on 02/11/2023 7:24:32 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ
This does not surprise me one iota. My high school, Castro Valley HS, is about 15 miles south of Berkeley. It was woke before woke was even dreamed of. The most famous alumnus is likely Rachel Maddow.

50 years ago, I was awarded a 4 year Army ROTC scholarship. The reaction campus wide, was one of complete revulsion towards me. In addition to colorful adjectives thrown my way, there were teachers that told me to my face they were "disappointed" in my decision. The only teacher who supported me was my calculus teacher, a former Jesuit priest who taught at Marquette. He was thrilled that I was going to Gonzaga.

I've never been back, will never attend a reunion. Why would I travel to California for a 6 hour event?

I understand there's a military "Page of Honor" for those who served in the military. Big effin' deal.

67 posted on 02/11/2023 7:40:14 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: familyop

PILOTS is what he means.


68 posted on 02/11/2023 7:41:06 AM PST by MortMan (You better bring yours, when you come to take mine. - Creed Fisher)
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To: gathersnomoss

Who are you? Henny Youngman? The King of the One Liners?


69 posted on 02/11/2023 7:41:45 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Olog-hai

Or the Dolphins.


70 posted on 02/11/2023 7:42:09 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Olog-hai

Or the Sharks.


71 posted on 02/11/2023 7:42:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Or sharks with frickin laser beams. That would wrap this up quickly.


72 posted on 02/11/2023 7:52:26 AM PST by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Phoenix8

Look into HOW the bombs were used in Vietnam versus Europe and Japan.


73 posted on 02/11/2023 8:54:48 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: The Great RJ

Because the only thing to negotiate is how much the invaders get to take of the choice parts of Ukraine after having destroyed the cities and homes and men of Ukraine.

In this case ‘negotiate’ is merely a euphemism for ‘surrender already, quit resisting’.


74 posted on 02/11/2023 9:03:23 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Tom Tetroxide
"If, for some crazy reason, that isn’t enough for them I’m sure a nuclear winter and crop failures will do the job."
It would solve the Gates/Klaus overpopulation problem in short order.
75 posted on 02/11/2023 9:59:13 AM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: PGR88

I think this rogue American government might just set off a nuclear bomb over there and blame it on The Russians as a way to justify our country joining the war.


76 posted on 02/11/2023 10:17:17 AM PST by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: The Great RJ; Night Hides Not; ansel12
The Great RJ wrote:

"It is ironic that liberal kids and grandkids of the Vietnam protesters who chanted 'give peace a chance' are now warmongers."

Readers with average intelligence and education aren't fooled by comments like that. While reading headlines in a news aggregator, I noticed some communist headlines among the many more reasonable, conservative ones.

Here are some of today's headlines from the World Socialist Web Site:



Sosyalist Eşitlik Grubu's Ulaş Ateşçi calls for a vote for the SGP: “An international movement against the war must be built in the working class and youth!”

Berlin Transit Workers Action Committee: Against war and social devastation! Vote for the SGP!

Seymour Hersh’s exposure of the Nord Stream bombing: A lesson and a warning

Roger Waters delivers impassioned speech at the UN demanding an end to the war in Ukraine

Biden covers up plans for US shooting war against Russia in State of the Union address

February 5, 2003: Colin Powell and the lie that sanctioned the invasion of Iraq

Gregor Link: “We fight for a united international movement of the working class against the war and against capitalism”

Hundreds attend Socialist Equality Party rally in Berlin against Ukraine war and German militarism

“We don't want this war!”: Participants at Berlin rally organised by SGP speak out

SGP Berlin state elections candidate Rippert: “It is necessary to combine the struggle against social austerity with the struggle against war!”

International greetings at SGP anti-war rally in Berlin: “This rally is of enormous importance to workers in all countries.”

Christoph Vandreier: “We unite workers across all borders in the fight against war”

1Former NATO general to be next Czech president

Support the Socialist Equality Party in the NSW election! No to War! Lives before profits! Billions for healthcare and education!

Stepping up US war preparations against China, Victoria Nuland visits South Asia

Musician Steve Van Zandt propagandizes for imperialist war

Roger Waters delivers impassioned speech at the UN demanding an end to the war in Ukraine

F-16 fighters: The next stage in the relentless US military escalation against Russia

Howard University awarded $90 million contract to conduct military research for the Pentagon Howard University’s bid to become one of the Pentagon’s higher education affiliates means it will be dedicated to the development of the US military’s killing machines.

Zelensky government in turmoil amidst reports of impending Russian offensive

US sends long-range missiles to Ukraine

An anti-war movement must be led by the working class

A call to youth throughout the world: Build a mass movement to stop the Ukraine war!

Humboldt University students in Berlin support call for an international mass movement against war

Youth, students and workers in Australia and New Zealand support global IYSSE anti-war webinar

Campaign for December 10 rally to build international anti-war movement reaches students across Canada

Mobilise the working class against imperialist war!

The working class and the struggle against European imperialism’s drive to war

Timeline of thirty years of war: the historical background to the US-NATO conflict with Russia

America’s “New World Order”— The historical and social roots of US plans for war with Russia and China


77 posted on 02/11/2023 1:33:04 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: TermLimits4All
Yes. Yes. KGB Russia, Islamic Iran, and Red China are all good. America and NATO are bad.
You have lost your mind and soul
78 posted on 02/13/2023 10:05:31 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: ganeemead
Ukraine should cease to exist and Russia should commit genocide, because you've fallen for conspiracy theories?
Putin and Nazi supporter all in one
79 posted on 02/13/2023 10:07:03 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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