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To: EnderWiggin1970

“insane claims that Russia sabotaged their own pipeline”

What country controlled access to as well as the flow of gas within the pipeline?

Access meaning places to insert a explosive laden “pig” into the line?

The pig can not move against the flow of gas, so that rules out countries downstream.

Look up Russian military deception AKA Maskirovka. Russia is the only country who would have benefitted politically, economically, and strategically from the loss of Nord Stream.

But then again, Russia doesn’t exactly have the safest history of pipeline operations. Their operators have a habit of raising the pipeline pressures above the design MAOP when the system shows a drop in pressure resulting in quite spectacular kabooms.


38 posted on 02/08/2023 4:48:39 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Are you suggesting the Russians blew up their own source of income so that they can blame us in a Western media which is entirely biased against them (our media follows the lead of their corporate masters and political interests - the Russians are not part of that)?

1.) We are the ones that for YEARS have been pushing in particular the Germans to go against these pipelines. We do not want Russians supplying the Germans with gas, (long term) we want to do that.

2.) We have the capabilities to do it (equipment and personnel), countries like Poland etc. do not. What do UDTs do? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_Demolition_Team

3.) We were in the position to do such a thing: https://news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/BALTOPS_2016_map.jpg (from 2016 but the point being we were literally on top of that pipeline)

Now, using you greatest analytical skills of motive + capabilities + location and time (at the right place and time) what do you come up with? If this were a murder, and you have someone that has a strong motive, the means to do it, and was at the place when it occurred, would you first consider the parents of the victim as the most likely culprits?

When you then have folks in the administration leaking (corroborating) this it becomes as if you have a witness too. So now you have a strong motive, no alibi (in fact you know we were there at the time of the crime), the means to do it, and a witness (albeit the trustworthiness of this witness is questionable).

While it is not a 100% for sure case, we are without doubt, the most likely suspect/culprit in this case.

But here is another piece of “evidence” (so to say) that sort of leads in this direction. The fact that the news and their senior level government in Germany is relatively quiet about who to blame and not pointing the finger at us, actually points the finger at us. They know! But they don’t want this to blow up, pun intended.

Think about it. This is crushing the German economy and causing people to literally be cold. You don’t think folks would be quick to point a finger and blame someone in such a situation? Back to the fictional crime case, what if the person that committed the murder in the aforementioned crime is your bigger brother, would you maybe stay quiet or would you throw your brother under the bus immediately, even if it is causing you great discomfort? The fact that the Germans not so much as make a squeak or mumble about us being behind it, is actually very telling that we are behind it and they know it. They have a BND (their version of a CIA/NSA), were part of the NATO exercise, and it’s their backyard where we can’t move a ship, plane, truck, or train, people, equipment, or communicate without them knowing about it.


39 posted on 02/09/2023 8:46:15 AM PST by Red6
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To: 2CAVTrooper
" Russia is the only country who would have benefitted politically, economically, and strategically from the loss of Nord Stream."

Yup, you're insane.

41 posted on 02/09/2023 11:48:14 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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