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How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline
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Posted on 02/08/2023 5:22:42 AM PST by navysealdad

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To: navysealdad

Nice allies you’ve got over there Europe.

The table is set for Merkel and Hollande to explain why they took the stance they took regarding Minsk II and trying to trick Putin to buy time to build up US backed former state of Ukraine’s military.

France and Germany were blackmailed by troublemaking Americans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nca3Z3-9K4c

Putin was not tricked.


21 posted on 02/08/2023 7:05:16 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: navysealdad

https://www.google.com/search?q=Seymour+Hersh+perpetual+conspiracy+theorist


22 posted on 02/08/2023 7:17:59 AM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: navysealdad
Excellent article. I may not agree with his politics, but Seymour is one of the Few journalists alive who continues to deep dive into fact.

Russian wants to integrate with Europe Economically. Germans, French, and most “continental Europe” are for it. The US, UK, and Norway (and Poland) are against it.

The US Deep State approved Nordstream 2 knowing the coming Ukraine war would give them cover to wage economic / kinetic warfare on Russia, and force Germany and continental Europe into the fold.

“Carthage Must Be Destroyed!” - Cato (Uncle Sam) the Elder
23 posted on 02/08/2023 7:25:00 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Germans generally feel what they’re told to feel.


24 posted on 02/08/2023 7:30:39 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: navysealdad

Remember all the Zeepers and their insane claims that Russia sabotaged their own pipeline? And here they still are playing the fool and defending the reprehensible and illegal acts of their corrupt slave masters.


25 posted on 02/08/2023 7:37:21 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: navysealdad

Disgusting and shameful lack by the criminal government in DC.


26 posted on 02/08/2023 7:50:02 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: navysealdad

Brilliant plan. With one critical flaw. Everybody knows DC desperately wanted the gas flow to stop. All they did was prove that Russia was not cutting off the gas. Had Russia merely turned off the spout, there would’ve been no need to blow the line. The criminal class in DC gets paid when gas transfers through Ukraine. They do not get paid when it’s a direct pipeline from Russia to Germany. This would’ve cut off hunter Biden, Romney, and all of the DC paychecks. They were also worried that cutting off the German manufacturing industry might make Germany less dependable in DC’s Ukraine war project.

Russia delivered all the gas it could despite Western cut offs from the banking system, heel dragging on the replacement compressors, and confiscation of Russian assets in Germany that were owned by God’s prom. We had to blow the line because Russia wouldn’t stop supplying gas.

DC is a crime syndicate.


27 posted on 02/08/2023 8:00:56 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: navysealdad

btt


28 posted on 02/08/2023 8:09:21 AM PST by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: canuck_conservative

That is simply untrue energy prices in Germany went up considerably you can Google it for yourself


29 posted on 02/08/2023 8:11:53 AM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: GrumpyOldGuy

German energy prices have gone up from 50% to double anyone can Google it


30 posted on 02/08/2023 8:13:03 AM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: Timber Rattler

What’s the difference you believe everything western media says the very western media you normally says lies about everything but when it comes to Ukraine you ape everything they say because it gives you confirmation bias that’s the pot calling the kettle black about sourcing timber

I don’t trust any of them but I have found that sources of Telegram are just as reliable if not more so than western media


31 posted on 02/08/2023 8:14:59 AM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: navysealdad

Those deep thinkers in DC never stopped to think. The entire operation would be unnecessary unless one believe Russia wanted to keep sending gas through it. Basically, this would be no different than thinking oh ship full of Toyotas coming from Japan so people are forced to buy from Detroit.

It was just economic terrorism from DC. London was eyeballs deep in this also. Liz Truss sent an unencrypted text to Blinken that “it’s done” two minutes after it blew.


32 posted on 02/08/2023 8:32:01 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: navysealdad

The operation is a monumental failure because what it means is that they could not simply get Germany to stop using Russian gas. So actually, it was an American attack on Germany.


33 posted on 02/08/2023 8:33:24 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: canuck_conservative
"The World Economy No Longer Needs Russia"

I am sure that the people going broke over their utility bills would disagree. Retards everywhere back wars to artificially limit the oil supply to keep the oligarchs rich.

34 posted on 02/08/2023 9:58:22 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled fturnips.)
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To: navysealdad

The author is an idiot.

Nord Stream failed due to Russian maskirovka. The Russians sent an explosive device down the pipe in what’s called a “pig” and command detonated it.

Look up Russian military deception “maskirovka”.

The Russians control the up stream access points to the pipe and control the pressures. The Russians benefit more politically and strategically in Nord Streams destruction than the U.S. or NATO would.


35 posted on 02/08/2023 10:08:00 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: navysealdad

This was literally an act of war. Many of us already knew the US was responsible for this, it was quite obvious. But having someone of Hersh’s fame coming out with this is a big deal. Will the media say this is a conspiracy theory or just try to ignore the story altogether? The German people sure aren’t gonna be happy when they hear this, likely have political repercussions over there.


36 posted on 02/08/2023 10:38:41 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: canuck_conservative

Dude, not sure what planet you’re on.

Churches are freezing cold, you can’t use a public swimming pool anymore, the cities are unlit, universities are cancelling classes or closing libraries, inflation is rampant (theirs is caused by energy, not over spending like ours) and their economy is tanking (they largely depend on an energy intense metal/machines and chemical industry for their economy).

https://www.handelsblatt.com/audio/today/handelsblatt-today-deutschland-wird-aermer-eine-zwischenbilanz-der-energiekrise/28908866.html (google can translate it for you)

https://fortune.com/2022/07/08/energy-rationing-germany-no-hot-water-turning-off-lights/

https://www.swr.de/swr2/leben-und-gesellschaft/dramatische-situation-von-hochschulen-in-der-energiekrise-100.html

I get it, Russia bad, Russia lose, we win, they can’t touch us... You’re in a fantasy world.

Completely uncoupled from reality.


37 posted on 02/08/2023 12:12:26 PM PST by Red6
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To: EnderWiggin1970

“insane claims that Russia sabotaged their own pipeline”

What country controlled access to as well as the flow of gas within the pipeline?

Access meaning places to insert a explosive laden “pig” into the line?

The pig can not move against the flow of gas, so that rules out countries downstream.

Look up Russian military deception AKA Maskirovka. Russia is the only country who would have benefitted politically, economically, and strategically from the loss of Nord Stream.

But then again, Russia doesn’t exactly have the safest history of pipeline operations. Their operators have a habit of raising the pipeline pressures above the design MAOP when the system shows a drop in pressure resulting in quite spectacular kabooms.


38 posted on 02/08/2023 4:48:39 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Are you suggesting the Russians blew up their own source of income so that they can blame us in a Western media which is entirely biased against them (our media follows the lead of their corporate masters and political interests - the Russians are not part of that)?

1.) We are the ones that for YEARS have been pushing in particular the Germans to go against these pipelines. We do not want Russians supplying the Germans with gas, (long term) we want to do that.

2.) We have the capabilities to do it (equipment and personnel), countries like Poland etc. do not. What do UDTs do? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_Demolition_Team

3.) We were in the position to do such a thing: https://news.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/BALTOPS_2016_map.jpg (from 2016 but the point being we were literally on top of that pipeline)

Now, using you greatest analytical skills of motive + capabilities + location and time (at the right place and time) what do you come up with? If this were a murder, and you have someone that has a strong motive, the means to do it, and was at the place when it occurred, would you first consider the parents of the victim as the most likely culprits?

When you then have folks in the administration leaking (corroborating) this it becomes as if you have a witness too. So now you have a strong motive, no alibi (in fact you know we were there at the time of the crime), the means to do it, and a witness (albeit the trustworthiness of this witness is questionable).

While it is not a 100% for sure case, we are without doubt, the most likely suspect/culprit in this case.

But here is another piece of “evidence” (so to say) that sort of leads in this direction. The fact that the news and their senior level government in Germany is relatively quiet about who to blame and not pointing the finger at us, actually points the finger at us. They know! But they don’t want this to blow up, pun intended.

Think about it. This is crushing the German economy and causing people to literally be cold. You don’t think folks would be quick to point a finger and blame someone in such a situation? Back to the fictional crime case, what if the person that committed the murder in the aforementioned crime is your bigger brother, would you maybe stay quiet or would you throw your brother under the bus immediately, even if it is causing you great discomfort? The fact that the Germans not so much as make a squeak or mumble about us being behind it, is actually very telling that we are behind it and they know it. They have a BND (their version of a CIA/NSA), were part of the NATO exercise, and it’s their backyard where we can’t move a ship, plane, truck, or train, people, equipment, or communicate without them knowing about it.


39 posted on 02/09/2023 8:46:15 AM PST by Red6
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To: wardaddy

It’s only mis/disinformation if it does not fit the official stated policies of the US government and Pfizer or most other big corporations. LOL

Yes. Prices have skyrocketed and they are rationing at this point.


40 posted on 02/09/2023 8:55:40 AM PST by Red6
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