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To: Cronos
US Army Gen. Christopher Cavoli, NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe:

...."Losses in Ukraine are 'out of proportion' to what NATO has been planning for".....


11 posted on 02/07/2023 8:58:30 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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“The scale of this war is out of proportion with all of our recent thinking,” said Cavoli, who is also head of US European Command. “But it is real and we must contend with it.”
One lesson is the importance of an adequate defense industrial base capable of providing the necessary equipment and supplies to satisfy the voracious appetite of large-scale, high-intensity warfare. The US, Russia, and Europe are already scrambling to ramp up production of artillery shells after letting their munitions stockpiles and factories run down after the Cold War.

“Production capacity remains vital, absolutely vital,” Cavoli said. “A healthy and elastic defense industrial base is just as important” as the number of troops.

Cavoli also took aim at the belief — until recently touted by Germany and other countries — that soft power has become a substitute for military power.

“Hard power is a reality,” Cavoli said, adding that diplomacy, cyber-warfare, and economic strength are important, “but the great irreducible feature of warfare is hard power, and we have to be good at it.”

“If the other guy shows up with a tank, you better have a tank,” Cavoli said.

Interestingly, Cavoli pointed to Ukraine’s surprising battlefield successes as evidence that “precision can beat mass.” But there’s a catch: It takes time for quality to beat quantity, and “that time is usually bought with space.


23 posted on 02/07/2023 9:12:17 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: caww
Do you even read the articles? US Army Gen was talking about Russia

"Scale, scale, scale," US Army Gen. Christopher Cavoli, NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe, told a Swedish defense conference in January. "The magnitude of this war is incredible. The Ukrainians have 37 frontline brigades, plus dozens more territorial brigades.



The Russians have lost almost 2,000 tanks. If we average out since the beginning of the war, the slow days and fast days, the Russians have expended on average well over 20,000 artillery rounds per day."

"The scale of this war is out of proportion with all of our recent thinking," said Cavoli, who is also head of US European Command. "But it is real and we must contend with it."
Firstly, you distorted his words - he never said "Losses in Ukraine are out of proportion" - he said "The scale of this war is out of proportion" and secondly, he was referring to Russian losses

Why are you distorting statements and posting lies?

67 posted on 02/08/2023 1:32:27 AM PST by Cronos
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