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To: Sunsong

You said....”Ukraine has been “a country” longer than Russia has”

Idiot...Kiev was once the capital of Russia. You really need to catch up on History.

August 24, 1991
Ukraine officially declared itself an independent country......The majority of Ukraine was incorporated into the Russian empire after the second partition of Poland in 1793, while the remaining section—the principality of Galicia—remained part of the Austro-Hungarian empire and was a key battleground on World War I’s Eastern Front.

additionally.....Ukraine and Russia go back to ‘Kievan Rus’, a medieval Viking federation that ruled first from Novgorod to the north, and then from Kyiv. Its territory included what is now Ukraine, Belarus and part of Russia. Kievan Rus meant “the land of the Rus”.


74 posted on 02/06/2023 7:43:45 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: caww

I like the old spelling: “Kiow”


76 posted on 02/06/2023 7:47:04 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: caww

LOL

Ukraine has been a country for way longer than that.

It is you who need s history lesson

As the saying goes: “goodness and truth will prevail”


86 posted on 02/06/2023 8:38:23 AM PST by Sunsong
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Caww “Idiot...Kiev was once the capital of Russia. You really need to catch up on History.”

Caww, you are being the idiotic one.

Kyiv was never the capital of “Russia”, not the Russia that has existed since 1990, nor the Kyivan Rus pre Mongol loose federation.

Tsar Nicholas’s title was “Tsar of the Russias” only since 1991 have we had a state called Russia, unless you consider Soviet Russia as a separate entity since 1930 ut the you need to consider Soviet Ukraine as a separate entity especially considering that Soviet Ukraine had a separate UN seat from 1945.

The Kyivan Rus were loose city states bound only by the ruling families being Rurikids.

Kyiv was the premier state but quite often did not have large power over the others.

This was apparent during the 12th a d 13th centuries when Moscowm an offshoot or Vladimir-Suzdal fought on the side of the Mongols against their Kyivan Rus brothers.


116 posted on 02/07/2023 8:58:57 AM PST by Cronos
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