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‘There Will Be Planes’ – Ukraine Claims Western Jets Already a Done Deal
Breitbart ^ | 02/05/2023 | BREITBART LONDON

Posted on 02/05/2023 10:54:07 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: Chunga85

Veterans Today is an enemy website.


101 posted on 02/05/2023 3:46:55 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: buwaya
Ukraine is selling weapons it acquired from the West on the black market due to the Kiev forces' limited ability to use them because of their lack of training, logistical challenges, and the diminishing size of the Ukrainian armed forces, former senior Pentagon adviser Karen Kwiatkowski told Sputnik on Thursday.....

The statements by Moscow and the Pentagon are not just claims, as Kiev itself backed them by admitting that foreign aid meant for Ukraine was already being sold. Ukraine's Bureau of Economic Security Director Vadym Melnyk told Ukraine 24 earlier this week that the agency had identified repeated cases of the sale of Western military and humanitarian aid.

"Given that these items are 'free,' a great deal of profit can be made by] selling what is not needed or cannot be easily used," Kwiatkowski said. "Ukraine's ability to utilize these 'gifts' is limited by lack of training, logistical challenges, and the ever-shrinking size of the Ukrainian army," the retired US Air Force lieutenant colonel added.

While some of the incoming material is incomplete, Kiev simply cannot utilize other equipment and implement it into its tactics or strategy, she added.

Kwiatkowski also highlighted how ironically, some of the weapons Ukraine is selling will likely end up in the hands of the Russian armed forces and their allies.

Given weapons that Kiev could utilize on the battlefield will eventually be sold, the former defense official noted, including the high mobility and efficacy ones. More at link https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/ukraine-sells-weapons-on-black-market-due-to-limited-ability

102 posted on 02/05/2023 3:51:19 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Regulator

Can you, yourself, find Sinaloa cartel A******s and selectively blow them up?
How do you tell the Sinaloa guys from a van full of women and kids?

Trump controlled the border with police. Are you suggesting he didn’t?


103 posted on 02/05/2023 3:53:19 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

Yeah, junior, actually I can. Being from Southern Arizona, it’s pretty easy to find and idenify them! They’re pretty much all over the place - in Mexico, you can’t sell a carne de perro enchilada without their permission!

And in California, the grows are now all over the place - but Newsom is afraid to touch them. Heeza pinche cabron as they say...


104 posted on 02/05/2023 4:05:41 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: buwaya; Cronos; USA-FRANCE; canuck_conservative; MalPearce; Allegra; PGR88; Right Brigade

I have no kind thoughts for you, Buwaya. Nor the others listed here who do not live in America, just like you.

You and several others here are promoting this war and siding with Ukraine.

You live in Spain, France, Poland, Canada, and UK. Many of us believe some others posting to promote the war live in Germany. Some here think you are being paid to come here and promote Ukraine.

Putin has stated that his nukes will come to America, not Ukraine, not any of your countries. Quite a few of you believe he is an evil madman, so it seems likely you would accept this statement from him.

Therefore, imo, each of you not living here are indirectly supporting the nuking of Americans, if this war accelerates enough, and you clearly desire acceleration.

And you have the chutzpah to call me anti-American, while you cheer for WW3 from your safe little niches in other parts of the world.

My hope for each of you is that karma will find you nonetheless.

Copy for fyi to Allegra,PGR888, and Right Brigade


105 posted on 02/05/2023 4:33:10 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: Regulator

Buwaya lives in Spain...just fyi.


106 posted on 02/05/2023 4:34:04 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema
Ukraine is selling weapons it acquired from the West on the black market

gee, if that's true, then Russia should have an easy time finishing off Ukraine, since they've sold off all their good weapons ... instead, we got a stalemate in Donbas

guess your claim was bogus, huh?


107 posted on 02/05/2023 4:49:52 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: MarMema; Cronos; canuck_conservative; MalPearce; Allegra; PGR88; Right Brigade

You live in the USA you say. So does many Russian spies as well - many of them live in America. Does that make them American patriots?

Now let me debunk your spectacular lies, once again... :

You said Russia has only threatned to NUKE America!? Really?

What about this :
“Nuking” London & Paris – Russian State-TV Threatens To Annihilate European Cities Using ‘Mighty’ Sarmat Missiles

https://eurasiantimes.com/nukinrussian-state-tv-threatens-to-annihilate-european-cities/

MarMema, I have debunked all your previous nonsense with great precision and indisputable accuracy. You are doing yourself a great disservice once again in posting false / fake “information”.


108 posted on 02/05/2023 5:44:11 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: MarMema

Yeah. In addition to the rather insistent admonition to never so much as harm a hair on the head of Los Illegales, the Precious Ones, I noted his response to you about Bilbao.

So we uh...know where his sympathies lie.


109 posted on 02/05/2023 5:57:35 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: JBW1949

I haven’t seen anything about Ukraine winning except for its determination to win the war in the future. Russia has said all along that it’s winning.

Over the past few weeks, the Ukrainian army has been killing more Russian soldiers. But the Ukrainians are dug in for the most part, while Russian soldiers are attacking and more exposed. Ukraine is obviously trying to hold their positions, while the Russian army has been attacking for months and not gaining much ground.

Ukraine is anticipating more weapons and training to try to win the war in the future. Last that I saw, within the past few weeks, a little over $27 billion had been spent since last Feb. 24th with much more funding already passed by our Congress for future purchases. Manufacturing is ramping up here, in the U.S.A., and in friendly allied countries.

Here are some maps showing the latest.

https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/


110 posted on 02/05/2023 6:09:08 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: canuck_conservative

I make an effort to post links and quotes.

A long career in science.

The last post, to which it says you are replying, had quotes from 3 govts about black market sales.

I am unsure if you read poorly? But if you had a search engine, you would find this “bogus” claim of mine being reported all over the world.
Some countries in Africa are seeing them, and the police in Germany have been catching and arresting sellers.

At any rate, you seem to be lost. It was my claim initially, someone questioned it and I responded with 2 news sites claiming it.

There are lots more.

Guess your reading skills are bogus?


111 posted on 02/05/2023 6:28:25 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: USA-FRANCE

You have debunked nothing except in your delusions.
Go eat your cheese.


112 posted on 02/05/2023 6:30:38 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: USA-FRANCE

You have debunked nothing except in your delusions.
Go eat your cheese.


113 posted on 02/05/2023 6:30:41 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: USA-FRANCE

I said *****Putin****

Your post is about a simulation on tv in Russia.

You really need to get a reading primer.

Do you understand the difference between something Putin says and a hyperMedia post about some game shown on Russian television.

😂😂😂

You are not debunking anything, once again.


114 posted on 02/05/2023 6:35:47 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: familyop; JBW1949

I agree, great post.

Let me just add:
The islamo-communist coalition attacking Ukraine (an official allied country of America) is huge : Russia, Belarus, North Korea, IRAN, the Chechnya region, and the entire CSTO (Russias NATO equivalent).
China is shipping semi-conductors to Russia for its missile production.
So Russia has a huge imperialist and religiously Islamic team against the west.... its logical and fair that America and Europe is having a coalition as well... to stop Russias expansionism into others sovereign countries.


115 posted on 02/05/2023 6:36:36 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: Regulator

That’s it! They are all pro NATO.

I can accept other Americans here being pro NATO because they are taking the risk of being here.

But these losers who don’t live here or in Russia should go discuss the war with their fellow nonAmericans.

It is none of their business, except they are here to promote nato.


116 posted on 02/05/2023 6:40:41 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema

It says RUSSIAN STATE TV said that !
And... WHO runs the Russian State TV ??? Yes, PUTIN and his communist friends !! They are all part of the Kremlin Deep-State.

Putin is the head of state of Russia right ?
Russian STATE TV is a mouth piece for the Kremlin. Otherwise it wouldn’t be called Russian “STATE” TV... Right ?

Marmema, stop embarrassing yourself.


117 posted on 02/05/2023 6:43:49 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

After this we are done.

You don’t know the difference between a president and the tv.

Bye.


118 posted on 02/05/2023 6:46:40 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: jacknhoo; Renfrew

Great list !
Quite some gear there.

Add to that Ukrainians impressive absolutism and military skills in defending their country with their OWN blood, no wonder “mighty” Russia is going nowhere after 12 months of war against a comparatively minuscule country.


119 posted on 02/05/2023 6:51:22 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: MarMema

If you don’t know that Russian TV spews out all Kremlin propaganda, you have lost touch with reality in a spectacular manner.

What Russian TV says, is what The Kremlin obviously want it to say!
You pretend not knowing that fact ??


120 posted on 02/05/2023 6:55:48 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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