Posted on 02/05/2023 7:05:09 AM PST by karpov
When progressives can’t pass their agenda through the front door in Congress, they sneak it through a regulatory back window. That’s what the Biden Administration is doing with gas stoves, as the Energy Department this week proposed new rules that amount to a gradual de facto ban.
A Biden appointee on the Consumer Product Safety Commission ignited a firestorm last month by threatening to ban gas stoves. After criticism from West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin and others, the CPSC chairman rejected the idea, and White House officials said they didn’t support banning gas stoves.
Then why has the Energy Department proposed new efficiency standards that would ban the sale of most gas stoves currently on the market? The stated purpose of the rule-making is to reduce energy consumption and save consumers money. But these benefits are meager. The department estimates the proposed rule would reduce energy use by a mere 3.4% from the status quo, and consumers on average would save $21.89 over a cook-top’s lifetime.
Even this assumes the standards are technically achievable without compromising performance. A spokesperson for the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers tells us that gas cook-tops would have to be completely redesigned to comply. Burners might have to become smaller and heavy grate designs altered, which would increase cooking times.
Twenty of the 21 gas stove-top models that the Energy Department tested wouldn’t comply with its proposed standards. Manufacturers would have to spend hundreds of millions of dollars redesigning stoves, if they bother.
Those costs would be passed to consumers in higher prices. The Energy Department estimates increased appliance prices will be offset by lower energy bills as well as climate and health benefits. But these benefits are speculative while higher product costs and reduced performance will directly harm consumers.
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“Get a propane operated gas stove”
That is what I have. A propane stove that can be lit with a match if necessary, propane HW and gas logs that can heat the house well enough if the power is out. The fact that I can cook without electricity is the main reason I went gas when I did my kitchen remodel a few years ago.
I am kind of surprised that I have yet to hear someone bellyaching about propane. It is probably a pretty small part of the mix, but that fact that it is primarily in rural area where folks vote wrong seems like it would make it a target, primarily for spite. Perhaps the fact that President Obama just installed 2500 gallons of propane storage on his waterfront estate gives them pause. Since he probably knows something I don’t, I am thinking about taking his lead and getting a second tank this year.
Your government hates you. Hate them back. With a vengeance.
You are exactly right. They hate us intensely. They don’t care what we want. They force us to accept their wishes. We do not live in a constitutional republic any longer.
Bkmk
we are right behind them with this idiocracy. The USA has become a worse monster than the fowl nasty british empire it was formed to escape from
When I was using a propane grill, a tank would last me a couple of months. Now, in my kitchen sits a commercial double convection oven gas range with eight burners. I love it and if someone comes after it, it would have to be taken from my cold dead hands.
They don’t really want you in an EV car, either. They want you schlepping around town in their lithium battery torch-buses.
Or walking or on a bicycle, yes.
Natural gas is way too valuable as a commodity to be frivolously flaring.
In the 1950s, one of my grandfathers was manager of a natural gas plant in NE Texas in the Longview, Kilgore and Gladewater triangle. It upgraded raw natural gas direct from the oil fields to pipeline commercial grade. Propane and butane were contaminants sent to flare at the time. Ethane was shipped by rail to petrochemical plants for plastics production.
So one day, granddad called his boss in Tulsa and said boss, there's this crazy guy down here that wants to buy my propane. It would take $xx to upgrade tower 2 to pull off a propane fraction and add piping and controls at the rail and truck tanker loading docks. Boss gave him the $$$. Company made a nice profit.
A while later, granddad call his boss again. Boss, you know that crazy guy buying all my propane? Now he wants all the butane. Can I get more $$$ for more tower 2 modifications and new piping at the tanker loading docks? Boss gave him the $$$. Company made more profit.
Dishwashers are very good now...
It is the detergent that changed. They banned phosphates in the name of environmental responsibility. I now use 2 of the most expensive pods and a couple drops of Dawn to have a chance in a 4hour cycle to get clean dishes.
More chemicals...more energy...more time...how is that better?
I remember those flares from when my dad worked in the gas fields of NW and SE New Mexico.
In 1856, our camp trailer was blown to pieces with us inside from a wellhead gas leak into the camp sewer line.
Horribly burned my mom.
They can’t ban gun parts, guns or accessories, but we let them anyway.
Nuke the swamp. Draining it is impossible
Let me cogitate on this one.
Gas stove: I Institute a direct combustion reaction against the bottom of my cookware. Said reaction provides instant, controllable heat, but there is some heat loss.
Electric stove: Someone else fires up a coal-fired or nuke plant that generates electricity, that is sent over transfer lines in the power grid, makes its way to my cooktop and heats my food, but there is some heat loss.
Decisions, decisions....
These people really are brain dead.
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