Posted on 01/31/2023 2:20:51 PM PST by delta7
Nice try.... .the “color revolutions” were bought with jobs for the children of Biden, Pelosi, Romney, McCain and other representatives.. The CIA’s “SOG” and “PAG” had a field day in the former USSR and it went well till the Ukrainian debacle..
I have a couple of simple question.
What does “victory” look like for Ukraine in this “war”?.. where Ukraine is “victorious”.
What does “victory” look like for Russia in this “war”?
If we enter this “war”... what does “victory” look like?
“Absolutely amazing how FR has become a cesspool of Russian propaganda.”
Just curious, but how do you determine what is “propaganda”? Because I have no idea whom to believe. It’s obvious that anybody on this forum that posts anything positive about Russia is a “Russian Propagandist”, and vise versa with respect to posting anything positive about Ukraine.
So again, my question is how do you determine what is propaganda?
Obama gave Putin permission to invade Ukraine in 2012, so when Biden became president, Putin had full approval of Obama/Biden to carry out their plans.
—> Because these dupes and clowns think Putin is their best savior against WEF and Globohomo.
Can you name any other force in their way?
Do you speak English. Look at what I posted, and your response, which is in now way a reply to what I wrote.
I said nothing about Zelensky. But I don’t support your Neocon agenda, and I don’t support your worship of an Obama/Soros tool.
? are you so unaware that you don’t know that the US has planned and supported the “color revolutions” in at least 6 countries? That’s so well documented, I guess you don’t read much. Luckily Al Sisi stopped it in Egygt.. after locals were in the streets with posters says take your instigators home showing pictures of the Dept of State henchmen. ...ymmv
Few thought the Russians would actually do it.
And the Ukrainians truly weren’t ready. On the Belorussian border there was nothing but border guards and militia - which hadn’t been mobilized. There was only the usual peacetime station active army brigade near Kiev, and another at Chernighiv, and just a platoon at Sumy. At the defiles out of Crimea there was also just the one brigade, and this was way out of position.
Add to that the whole Ukrainian Air Defense system was in its peacetime state, in storage. Thats why for the first few days the RuAF was able to overfly Ukraine at will.
The NATO training and the very few (at the time) NATO weapons became significant only after the initial clashes had delayed and blunted the Russian advance. That all really began to matter in the next few weeks.
But the Russians SHOULD have won in the first three days.
Timber Rattler is a liar and pushes crap which never addresses any of the solid info from Martin Armstrong... the dishonest Rattler never has a response other than smear. what a pantload.... ymmv
Ukrainian victory will come with the withrawal of Russian forces from Ukrainian territory.
Oh well, they had a good run while it lasted.
Mr. Armstrong does not provide much solid info.
Nearly all he does is make assertions, without support.
Now, its possible to prophesy without addressing ones logical processes at all. Its like giving the answer to a math problem without showing the solution. But he has a very poor track record as a prophet.
Where the heck did you get those ramblings from? What I posted was that Zelenskyy is a WEF tool who reiterated his undying support for the WEF agenda at the 2023 Davos fascists meeting. I am neither a neocon, Zelenskyy fan-boi, nor am I a Putinista. If indeed Europe gets trashed it will be because of the WEF and its traitorous western supporters and its minions, one of which is Ukraine.
What a colossally stupid statement. The endless battling over the frontiers of Poland was effectively ended at Yalta by redrawing the colossally of Poland, Germany and the Soviet Union. The non Polish majority areas in the east and se of Poland went back to Russia. Germany lost 30=40% of its eastern territories and these were divided between Poland and Russia. Poland received Silesia with an industrial base only equaled by the Ruhr. The Polish Corridor question was ended for good in this distribution as Poland now had an unobstructed Baltic sea coast and the port of Danzig becomes a Polish city. Populations were exchanged. Germans pushed out of what was to be western Poland, Prussia divided between the two victor states, the majority of Poles resident in the eastern parts of Poland would now populate the former German areas of western Poland. Nothing sacred about the Versailles frontiers of Poland. Poland ended up with a third of its territories with majority non Polish populations. The Polish borders were drawn to push the borders of the new Soviet state back as far as possible. The big Polish footptint was not an index of strength but a guarantee of a weak, oversized ethnically conflicted nation. Stalin was a tyrant and mass murderer to be sure , however, his settlement of the east central European frontiers was and is highly pragmatic, sensible and the most stable division suggested. Those who would wish to dismantle the Helsinki Accords which institutionalized these borders are foolish beyond all measure unless they truly desire another European great war
“France could agree to Volodymyr Zelensky’s demands for fighter jets to defend Ukraine’s skies, the chairman of the French defence committee said on Thursday.”
Wow!!! You don’t think that FR is loaded with Ukrainian Trolls? You must skip a lot of Posts -
I’m Polish - we want nothing to do with any of them - Russians or Ukrainians
I saw the “Wołyn” movie a few weeks ago. Probably the most gruesome historical movie I’ve ever seen.
I believe that was the excuse Russia used for going into the
Ukraine. Why take all of the Ukraine if you’re only trying
to protect two regions with a strong Russian presence in
them?
I only knew of two nations. Interesting there were three
more. Appreciate the mention. Then what was the big
motivating factor behind trying to take all of the Ukraine?
Appreciate the source also.
Europe has been destroying itself for a long time
Uh...so what part about Martin Armstrong being a convicted fraudster who served 11 years in prison is a lie?
Martin Arthur Armstrong (born November 1, 1949) is an American self-taught economic forecaster and convicted felon who spent 11 years in jail for cheating investors out of $700 million and hiding $15 million in assets from regulators.
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