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Europe will be Destroyed over Ukraine
Armstrong Economics ^ | 31 Jan 23 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 01/31/2023 2:20:51 PM PST by delta7

While Chancellor Olaf Scholz has been pushing back against demands of Ukraine for fighter jets now after the tanks, there have been those in Germany eager to support Ukraine to destroy Russia. They have filled their heads with such propaganda that Russia will conquer all of Europe if it is not completely destroyed NOW. They are placing not just the lives of European citizens at risk but the entire future of Europe as a whole.

I know Ukraine very well and the Neonazis there will never stop. Russia must protect the Donbas for they would actually slaughter every ethnic Russian living there. The Nazis have won. The West has now supported their cause.

The 2014 Massacre of Russian-speaking Ukrainians in Odesa has been ignored by the West, but this is what awaits the Donbas if Putin leaves. The West just wants to destroy Russia once and for all. Human rights no longer mean anything and the Minsk Agreement was a deliberate farse only to buy time to wage war against Russia. Neither Russia nor China will forget that it has been all because of the deceit of the West.

The Ukrainians want only pure-blood Ukrainians and they killed ethnic Russians living in Odesa grabbing them on the streets, beating them, and killing them all to the silence of the Western press. That was the turning point. It revealed that the Donbas had to separate for the Ukrainian Neo-Nazis wanted to exterminate them. I was told in 2014 that Crimea will be Ukrainian or it will be depopulated – by Ukrainians!

That began the civil war, which was instigated by the interim government installed by the West that was NEVER elected by the Ukrainian people. Because the CIA protected the Ukrainian Nazis who were never prosecuted for killing Jews, Polish, and Hungarians simply because they also killed Russians, we are now on the same side that Hilter was once on and we turn a blind eye to their atrocities.

The West started this civil war because the West wants to destroy Russia – plain and simple. The Ukrainian Neonazis set fire to the building in Odesa and burned all the Russian-speaking Ukrainians alive. For the first time in history, an organized massacre of civilians was carried out and even filmed by numerous people and the West said nothing. This has been documented in extraordinary detail and the Ukrainian Neonazis did not even fear any negative consequences in world opinion, because the West is in their corner, and as Merkel admitted, the whole Minsk Agreement was to fool Putin and make the Russians in the Donbas think the West cared about their human rights when it never did.

Zelensky is an actor and he is playing the role given to him by the West to start World War III. Everything he does is to expand the war and to suck in NATO and the United States to create this war. He is succeeding. I can object all I want, but our computer will be right and we are looking at World War III between 2025 and 2027. So batten down the hatches.

Our computer, which tracks the global capital flows thanks to the cooperation with raw data, we can see that the money is still migrating out of Europe. Russians and the Chinese are pulling money out of Europe as well. So far, it is still underpinning the US marketplace.

Many supporting documentation included in tge article.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bloggers; fakenews; fjb; joewantsaworldwar; letsgoukraine; qtard; war; zeepers4ww3; zottherussiantrolls
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To: MeganC

Nice try.... .the “color revolutions” were bought with jobs for the children of Biden, Pelosi, Romney, McCain and other representatives.. The CIA’s “SOG” and “PAG” had a field day in the former USSR and it went well till the Ukrainian debacle..

I have a couple of simple question.

What does “victory” look like for Ukraine in this “war”?.. where Ukraine is “victorious”.

What does “victory” look like for Russia in this “war”?

If we enter this “war”... what does “victory” look like?


61 posted on 01/31/2023 3:44:17 PM PST by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: TheBattman

“Absolutely amazing how FR has become a cesspool of Russian propaganda.”

Just curious, but how do you determine what is “propaganda”? Because I have no idea whom to believe. It’s obvious that anybody on this forum that posts anything positive about Russia is a “Russian Propagandist”, and vise versa with respect to posting anything positive about Ukraine.

So again, my question is how do you determine what is propaganda?


62 posted on 01/31/2023 3:47:52 PM PST by Four of Six (Tagline deleted because the moderator is delicate snowflake and suffers from delusions of grandeur.)
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To: MarMema; buwaya

Obama gave Putin permission to invade Ukraine in 2012, so when Biden became president, Putin had full approval of Obama/Biden to carry out their plans.


63 posted on 01/31/2023 3:48:26 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: dennisw

—> Because these dupes and clowns think Putin is their best savior against WEF and Globohomo.

Can you name any other force in their way?


64 posted on 01/31/2023 3:49:05 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: jpp113

Do you speak English. Look at what I posted, and your response, which is in now way a reply to what I wrote.


65 posted on 01/31/2023 3:49:30 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: jpp113

I said nothing about Zelensky. But I don’t support your Neocon agenda, and I don’t support your worship of an Obama/Soros tool.


66 posted on 01/31/2023 3:51:08 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: MeganC

? are you so unaware that you don’t know that the US has planned and supported the “color revolutions” in at least 6 countries? That’s so well documented, I guess you don’t read much. Luckily Al Sisi stopped it in Egygt.. after locals were in the streets with posters says take your instigators home showing pictures of the Dept of State henchmen. ...ymmv


67 posted on 01/31/2023 3:51:45 PM PST by PalominoGuy ( )
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To: MarMema

Few thought the Russians would actually do it.

And the Ukrainians truly weren’t ready. On the Belorussian border there was nothing but border guards and militia - which hadn’t been mobilized. There was only the usual peacetime station active army brigade near Kiev, and another at Chernighiv, and just a platoon at Sumy. At the defiles out of Crimea there was also just the one brigade, and this was way out of position.

Add to that the whole Ukrainian Air Defense system was in its peacetime state, in storage. Thats why for the first few days the RuAF was able to overfly Ukraine at will.

The NATO training and the very few (at the time) NATO weapons became significant only after the initial clashes had delayed and blunted the Russian advance. That all really began to matter in the next few weeks.

But the Russians SHOULD have won in the first three days.


68 posted on 01/31/2023 3:54:19 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Timber Rattler

Timber Rattler is a liar and pushes crap which never addresses any of the solid info from Martin Armstrong... the dishonest Rattler never has a response other than smear. what a pantload.... ymmv


69 posted on 01/31/2023 3:54:24 PM PST by PalominoGuy ( )
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To: Dick Vomer

Ukrainian victory will come with the withrawal of Russian forces from Ukrainian territory.


70 posted on 01/31/2023 3:55:32 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: delta7

Oh well, they had a good run while it lasted.


71 posted on 01/31/2023 3:56:41 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: PalominoGuy

Mr. Armstrong does not provide much solid info.
Nearly all he does is make assertions, without support.

Now, its possible to prophesy without addressing ones logical processes at all. Its like giving the answer to a math problem without showing the solution. But he has a very poor track record as a prophet.


72 posted on 01/31/2023 4:00:33 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: nickcarraway

Where the heck did you get those ramblings from? What I posted was that Zelenskyy is a WEF tool who reiterated his undying support for the WEF agenda at the 2023 Davos fascists meeting. I am neither a neocon, Zelenskyy fan-boi, nor am I a Putinista. If indeed Europe gets trashed it will be because of the WEF and its traitorous western supporters and its minions, one of which is Ukraine.


73 posted on 01/31/2023 4:03:41 PM PST by jpp113
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To: nickcarraway; All

What a colossally stupid statement. The endless battling over the frontiers of Poland was effectively ended at Yalta by redrawing the colossally of Poland, Germany and the Soviet Union. The non Polish majority areas in the east and se of Poland went back to Russia. Germany lost 30=40% of its eastern territories and these were divided between Poland and Russia. Poland received Silesia with an industrial base only equaled by the Ruhr. The Polish Corridor question was ended for good in this distribution as Poland now had an unobstructed Baltic sea coast and the port of Danzig becomes a Polish city. Populations were exchanged. Germans pushed out of what was to be western Poland, Prussia divided between the two victor states, the majority of Poles resident in the eastern parts of Poland would now populate the former German areas of western Poland. Nothing sacred about the Versailles frontiers of Poland. Poland ended up with a third of its territories with majority non Polish populations. The Polish borders were drawn to push the borders of the new Soviet state back as far as possible. The big Polish footptint was not an index of strength but a guarantee of a weak, oversized ethnically conflicted nation. Stalin was a tyrant and mass murderer to be sure , however, his settlement of the east central European frontiers was and is highly pragmatic, sensible and the most stable division suggested. Those who would wish to dismantle the Helsinki Accords which institutionalized these borders are foolish beyond all measure unless they truly desire another European great war


74 posted on 01/31/2023 4:04:43 PM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“France could agree to Volodymyr Zelensky’s demands for fighter jets to defend Ukraine’s skies, the chairman of the French defence committee said on Thursday.”


75 posted on 01/31/2023 4:07:07 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: TheBattman

Wow!!! You don’t think that FR is loaded with Ukrainian Trolls? You must skip a lot of Posts -

I’m Polish - we want nothing to do with any of them - Russians or Ukrainians


76 posted on 01/31/2023 4:12:04 PM PST by EC Washington
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To: EC Washington

I saw the “Wołyn” movie a few weeks ago. Probably the most gruesome historical movie I’ve ever seen.


77 posted on 01/31/2023 4:13:46 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I believe that was the excuse Russia used for going into the
Ukraine. Why take all of the Ukraine if you’re only trying
to protect two regions with a strong Russian presence in
them?

I only knew of two nations. Interesting there were three
more. Appreciate the mention. Then what was the big
motivating factor behind trying to take all of the Ukraine?

Appreciate the source also.


78 posted on 01/31/2023 4:13:59 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for? which it stands.)
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To: delta7

Europe has been destroying itself for a long time


79 posted on 01/31/2023 4:15:09 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: PalominoGuy
Timber Rattler is a liar...

Uh...so what part about Martin Armstrong being a convicted fraudster who served 11 years in prison is a lie?

Martin A. Armstrong

Martin Arthur Armstrong (born November 1, 1949) is an American self-taught economic forecaster and convicted felon who spent 11 years in jail for cheating investors out of $700 million and hiding $15 million in assets from regulators.

80 posted on 01/31/2023 4:17:13 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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