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Jane Fonda's Vietnam Actions Were Worse Than You Think (F.T.A. retrospective)
National Review ^ | March 3, 2021 | Kyle Smith

Posted on 01/29/2023 4:26:59 PM PST by otness_e

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To: otness_e
All that I remember was that Ford was inundated with the Watergate fallout, his unpopularity because of the Nixon pardon, and his impotence to deal with the inflation he inherited.

And my interpretation was that he was not going to risk impeachment by further antagonizing the (anti war) left. Hence, he did not push to recommit.

101 posted on 01/30/2023 7:00:27 AM PST by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.." )
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To: Ronald77

I always thought the only reason she wasn’t brought up on charges was that Henry Fonda was a national icon and they just didn’t have the heart to do it to him. Then she went on to marry Tom Hayden of the Chicago 7 who apparently lived off her and treated her like chit. Then Ted Turner who treated her like chit.

Jane Fonda has lived the life of A classic example of A person with no self worth who attaches themselves to radical causes to feel good about themselves. Unfortunately she caused lot of misery. I still remember her mealy mouthed BS apology to the Viet Nam vets.


102 posted on 01/30/2023 7:20:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Jane Fonda was one of the original “Nepo Babies”.


103 posted on 01/30/2023 7:21:35 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

As we say in the south she’s a hot mess.


104 posted on 01/30/2023 7:28:48 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: GingisK

We all face that clock eventually.

Even traitorous POS like her.

No immunity from it.


105 posted on 01/30/2023 8:23:14 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Old Grumpy

I have the same dilemma with “Kelly’s Heroes”.


106 posted on 01/30/2023 8:31:40 AM PST by GingisK
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She has probably made plans to be cremated and scattered at sea just to spite everybody that wants to piss on her grave.


107 posted on 01/30/2023 1:19:23 PM PST by Blogatron (Mine the border.)
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To: ought-six

The original “hippies” were basically just non-conformists who wanted to live a Bohemian lifestyle, but without the politics. That changed as soon as the radical left got involved with them.

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Beatniks.


108 posted on 01/30/2023 3:01:58 PM PST by Graybeard58 (I stand behind Alec Baldwin!)
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To: Graybeard58

“Beatniks.”

Not really. Beatniks had no interest in self-sufficiency or any kind of work. They just liked coffeehouses and bad poetry and liked to dress up all in black. More like antifa than hippies.


109 posted on 01/30/2023 3:27:07 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; piasa; Interesting Times

Ping.


110 posted on 01/30/2023 5:55:49 PM PST by Fedora
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; piasa; Interesting Times

Ping.


111 posted on 01/30/2023 5:55:49 PM PST by Fedora
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To: LouAvul; Chainmail

Make that the April cover, 2017, WWII History magazine. The Peace Symbol appears on the left side of the Wehrmacht tank!


112 posted on 01/30/2023 11:28:17 PM PST by Does so (What distinguishes today's Russian aggression from that of the USSR?)
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To: Chainmail

32. You got some of your pro Hanoi support fronts in the US re the Vietnam War mixed up. Yes, Women’s Strike for Peace, re Ban the Bomb, was a pre cursor to the Hanoi Lobby that followed. I was in them and knew or met their leaders. Here is a brief chronological/ideological listing of the Hanoi Lobby.

1. Women Strike for Peace, say 60s. Heavily Communist Party USA (CPUSA) dominated. Key component of the various Moves and it’s successor PCPJ. HCUA hearings on

2. Spring Mobilization Against the War in Vietnam 1967. HCUA hearings on.

3. National and founding of New Mobe (July 1969). See Extent of Subversion in Campus Disorders, SISS, released Oct/Nov.1969.

4. Hearings on The Peoples Coalition for Peace & Justice (CPUSA controlled) and the National Peace Action Coalition - NPAC (Socialist Workers Party/Young Socialist Alliance — Trotskyite, Syd Stapleton, Harry Ring, Peter Camejo), 1971, 4 part hearings on, House Internal Security Committee.

Also: Congressional Record, 92nd Congress, 1st session, “The Viet Congress Front in the United States”, by the Hon. John G. Schmitz, with Rep. Fletcher Thompson and Roger H. Zion, book format, Western Island press, of the original Congressional Record, April 21, 1971, “The Second Front of the Vietnam War: Communist Subversion in the Peace Movement”

PCPJ was a shadow group for another year or so while NPAC dissolved in 1973 when the US and No. Vietnam signed the POW. Release agreement and the US discontinued its direct involvement in the war.

The SWP then moved in to the women’s rights movement by creating WONAAC - Womens National Abortion Action Coalition. It lasted for a year or too but the Trotskyite split off of the SWP, the Workers World Party WWP, began it’s ascendancy, and created the Peoples AntiWar Mobilization - PAM, and the All Peoples Congress group. Dominated communist protests in the 1980s and 90s.

One of their chapters became the Party Of Socialism and Liberation. They showed up in Charlottesville riots, etc. and yesterday in the Tyre Nichols protests with their black letters on white poster signs.

Been covering these groups as a journalist and internet poster since 1970. Knew or met most of their major players including Jane Fonda, Rennie Davis, SDS/ Weathermen, and key CPUSA Mobe fronts leaders.

Hope this helps to set up the chronology of these groups.


113 posted on 01/31/2023 1:40:41 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Does so
Got it.

Except: 1. it's upside down and 2. It's the unit identifier (Tactical marking) for the 4th Armored Division early in WW II.

That's a Mark II panzer - and unless the Nazis accidently invented the Communist Party's symbol for their front groups, it's just a goofy coincidence..

114 posted on 01/31/2023 4:38:15 AM PST by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Thanks for the more accurate detail - and the salient point is that none of these front groups were actually for "peace" - they were working for the communists and for the defeat of the United States.

The CPUSA was in the driver's seat throughout all these changes of names and fracturing of these groups (always caused by "movement heavies" arguing among themselves) and they were in constant contact with Hanoi and the communist capitals for direction and coordination. Had a regular commuter service going through Phnom Penh, Vientiane to Hanoi - bring back instructions, recommended schedules for demonstrations and propaganda. Jane Fonda was a traveler for one of those trips and made broadcasts on Radio Hanoi to urge our soldiers to surrender to the enemy.

The inexplicable part of all this is that despite Congressional Investigations, thorough law enforcement infiltration (and I would assume CIA as well) of all of these groups and their treasonous activities, nothing important was ever done to punish the leaders or stop these activities. We had good young men fighting, suffering, dying and no Attorneys General, no prosecutors, no administrations stopped this monstrous crime while it was happening.

I don't want to hear the "this wasn't a declared war" crap: when Americans are being killed, it's a war. I ought to know: Echo Company, 2nd Battalion, 1st Marines 1966-7.

115 posted on 01/31/2023 4:56:57 AM PST by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: Widget Jr

South Vietnam fell two years after we withdrew, but eventually (as it always does) the communist government fell, and they are back (more or less) to a capitalist system (I think)

So we didn’t kick the commies out, they eventually did themselves in. Like they are doing in Venezuela and Brazil and Greece.


116 posted on 01/31/2023 6:32:56 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: LouAvul

See post 114 in reply to the Peace Symbol on a Nazi tank!


117 posted on 02/01/2023 12:58:44 PM PST by Does so (What distinguishes today's Russian aggression from that of the USSR?)
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To: LouAvul

Oh, believe me, he did push. Just watch Dennis Prager’s video on the Vietnam War aftermath and you’ll see what I mean:

https://youtu.be/7hqYGHZCJwk

He may have pushed impotently, but he DID push nonetheless.


118 posted on 02/02/2023 5:00:11 AM PST by otness_e
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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119 posted on 02/02/2023 11:21:13 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=50%>)
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To: Mark17; pfflier; EvilCapitalist

Read through the whole thread and don’t remember anyone mentioning “The Invasion of the Body Snatchers” as one of his movies not portraying a member of the US military.


120 posted on 02/02/2023 11:57:43 AM PST by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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