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A campaign to “de-Russify” Ukraine is under way
The Economist ^ | Jan 29th 2023 | | KYIV AND UZHHOROD

Posted on 01/29/2023 8:52:16 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: MeganC
The Baltic countries have also been aggressively derussifying. Russian language is banned in schools and Soviet-era monuments are being toppled and destroyed. As they should be.

Even if the Russian army leaves Ukraine next week, you still have about 15 million filthy Russians living in eastern and southern Ukraine. That's your real problem. You have an enourmous genocide/ethnic cleansing campaign in front of you.

41 posted on 01/29/2023 9:40:24 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: BusterDog
Uke regime is literal Nazis.

Right led by Jewish Ukrainian President Zelesky. Makes sense

42 posted on 01/29/2023 9:41:51 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Salohcin

Ukraine has Yevtushenko and that’s about it.


43 posted on 01/29/2023 9:42:41 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; wildcard_redneck

It’s beautiful when free people destroy the monuments of their oppressors!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2DrxoTNdTk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNKb9FAMu9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJCEXYHYEgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eGxD3GIuaU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YfV2-b9UNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXQa_4CBpi0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcvPKNGwhA8


44 posted on 01/29/2023 9:43:12 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
It is not “ethnic cleansing” which implies removing people.

So the Ukraine shelling the Russia speaking areas of the country and killing thousands after the 2014 proxy coup wasn't "removing people?"

45 posted on 01/29/2023 9:44:11 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: Salohcin

“Oh stop, rejecting Russian culture is NOT ethnic cleansing.”

Sure, it’s PERFECTLY FINE to re-program societies that have been around for hundreds of years longer than the new kids in town (the Ukrainians). Hitler thought the same, by the way.


46 posted on 01/29/2023 9:44:58 AM PST by BobL
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To: Destroyer Sailor

Russian Autocrat going to be a Russian Autocrat. Works both ways. Russia has been doing this since the 16th century.


Russia would be as rich as Germany if not for its corrupt and dysfunctional society. They make the same mistakes over and over. They are basically the Palestinians of Europe in that regard.


47 posted on 01/29/2023 9:45:37 AM PST by lodi90
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To: escapefromboston

It started long long before that in the 1920’s when some guys named Stepan Bandera and Mykola Lebed started to build a Ukrainian national identity built on racial purity, that targeted Slavs (Poles Baltics and Russians, along with Jews, Romanis and Hungarians) for elimination from the gene pool.

This made Bandera and Lebed natural and enthusiastic collaborators with the German nazis in WW2. One of the worst massacres at Babi Yar was carried out with Germans and the Ukrainian OUN collaborators…who were actually in the majority of the executioners ( based on their own proud written accounts)

The Maidan coup of 2014 did not start this drive to ethnic genocide…it unleashed it with the support of the neo-nazi ( aka “uktranationalist”) groups that had become entrenched as Uke power influencers.

A long but thoroughly written overview of history below. And how the US protected and has even nurtured this insane racial hate as a tool against Russia.

How in the hell anyone thinks these nationalists running Kiev are ever going to live in a multicultural state…esp now….is beyond rational explanation.

Stepan Bandera has been resurrected from hell as the “ father” of Ukraine, a hero of the nation, and his birthday a national holiday.

https://thesaker.is/ukrainian-nationalism-as-a-cold-war-weapon/


48 posted on 01/29/2023 9:46:11 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Russia has been removing Russian speakers from Donbas and Luhansk and sending them off to their new homes in Siberia.

When Kherson was recently retaken by Ukraine the only people left living there were all ethnic Ukrainians.

Russia itself is carrying out the de-Russification and ethnic cleansing of eastern Ukraine. By the time Ukraine retakes its territory from the gangsters there won’t be any Russian colonists left in Ukraine.

The only question is did these people leave willingly?


49 posted on 01/29/2023 9:46:33 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MarMema
Nope. About 2010.

Look its moronic to argue that Ukraine only wanted to join the EU because of Nuland and US money. Both sides, Putin and the West have tried to influence Ukraine, with Putin even poisoning Ukraine's president in 2004. Ukrainian people ALWAYS wanted to join the EU, because of the much better standard of living in the EU.

50 posted on 01/29/2023 9:46:42 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: silverleaf; All

51 posted on 01/29/2023 9:48:36 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: Salohcin

US Canadian journalist describes genocide in donbas
by Ukrainian army.
Still happening today. Civilian areas shelled.
Graphic violence warning

https://rumble.com/v1lau95-eva-bartlett-describes-the-unspeakable-genocide-in-ukraine-full-interview-g.html


In 2014 a Ukrainian journalist openly called for genocide in Dombass on Hromadske TV:

“The Donetsk oblast, there are approximately 4 million inhabitants, at least 1.5 million of which are superfluous … Donbass must be exploited as a resource, which it is. I don’t claim to have a quick solution recipe, but the most important thing that must be done – no matter how cruel it may sound – is that there is a certain category of people that must be exterminated.”

Hromadske TV is, or was at the time, reportedly financed directly by the US and Dutch Embassies.”

https://expose-news.com/2022/03/16/nazi-ukraine-tv-presenter-calls-for-genocide-of-russians/

video at this link

https://slavyangrad.org/2014/08/01/ukrainian-journalist-openly-calls-for-genocide-on-hromadske-tv-financed-by-us-and-netherlands/


52 posted on 01/29/2023 9:50:01 AM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: silverleaf
The Maidan coup of 2014 did not start this drive to ethnic genocide

Its moronic to argue "ethnic genocide" occurred in Ukraine when Ukraine elected Jewish president Zelensky who is a native Russian speaker.

53 posted on 01/29/2023 9:50:59 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: MeganC

Russia has been removing Russian speakers from Donbas and Luhansk and sending them off to their new homes in Siberia.

Says who? You? 😂😂😂


54 posted on 01/29/2023 9:51:59 AM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: silverleaf
Ethno-linguistic map of Ukraine

Language does not always correspond to national identity. Something Putin and fellow Russians cannot seem to understand.

55 posted on 01/29/2023 9:52:52 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

As much as it hurts me to say this, Zelensky and the far right Neo Nazi Ukrainians were waging a campaign of terror in eastern Ukraine when Russia invaded. Russia invaded over the NATO issue and the access to the Black Sea issue.Plus Biden whether through stupidity or design green lighted the invasion when he and Blinken stated that sanctions would only come into play after an invasion. That was implying that there would be nothing stopping an invasion. Might as well throw my lab a ham bone. Putin thought the 45% of Ukrainians of Russian heritage would be on his side. Bad call. Now come 200 tanks from Europe and 31 from the US. That is about 1 yr tank production from the Russian main tank factory at current production rates. Who knows if countries like Pakistan, India, and China will sell Russia back some of it’s tanks in the future. ( or trade for oil and gas). Next will come fighter planes for Ukraine. At some point Russia will decide enough is enough and lash out as only few countries are capable of. We should be brokering a cease fire, not adding fuel to the fire. Of course the Biden administration wouldn’t know reality if it shit in their depends.


56 posted on 01/29/2023 9:53:46 AM PST by Waverunner
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“If you love ALL Ukrainians, why not let the Breakaway Republics secede?”

Sorry, I just don’t buy the idea that even the Donbas wanted secession. The self-declared DPR exists because under 1000 separatists, supported by Russians on holiday, took over government buildings.

At no point ever in their existence did the DPR even attempt to act like a normal government. It is a paramilitary bandit outfit fronted by a handful of Ukrainians, that has strenuously avoided doing anything that might give it legitimacy.

No elections in eight years. No civic government. Introduction of the death penalty for people fighting on Ukraine’s side, despite both Ukraine and Russia having moratoriums in place on capital punishment.

That’s how confident they were that they had popular support.

Rigged referenda held at gunpoint while over a million legitimate voters from the Donbas region who’d fled the combat zone into other parts of Ukraine (or further afield) didn’t get a vote.

Russian tourists and Russian appointed electoral monitors voting for annexation.

And my particular favorite, a referendum count being televised in Russia where you can watch a zombified official putting TOTALLY UNMARKED ballot papers into the “yes to annexation” pile for five minutes.


57 posted on 01/29/2023 9:55:20 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Ethnic Russians make up only 17% of the Ukrainian population:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/People

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/major-ethnic-groups-of-the-ukraine.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/03/13/the-ethnicities-of-ukraine-are-united/?sh=605b0bdf110e

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Ukraine


58 posted on 01/29/2023 9:55:25 AM PST by Salohcin
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To: MeganC

There were journalists embedded among the 80,000 civilians that chose to leave Kherson before the Russian military evacuated. Some were among the civilians killed when Ukraine used HIMARS on the civilian convoys at the river crossing, and provided accounts of the experience.


59 posted on 01/29/2023 9:56:08 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: MarMema

“Says who? You?”

“The figures were given by the head of the National Defense Management Center of Russia, Mikhail Mizintsev, Russian news agency Interfax Russia reports.”

https://news.yahoo.com/russian-invaders-deport-almost-200-172700384.html

Also:

https://uacrisis.org/en/deportation-of-ukrainians-how-modern-russia-repeats-the-crimes-of-the-soviet-union

https://www.grid.news/story/global/2022/07/21/the-ukraine-war-in-data-hundreds-of-thousands-of-ukrainians-forcibly-removed-from-their-land-to-russia/

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-mariupol-says-russia-forcefully-deported-thousands-its-people-2022-03-20/

https://www.hrw.org/report/2022/09/01/we-had-no-choice/filtration-and-crime-forcibly-transferring-ukrainian-civilians

Russia’s efforts to ethnically cleanse Russian speakers from Ukraine continues (from four days ago):

https://cepa.org/article/behind-the-lines-russia-steps-up-ukrainian-deportations/

Ya still laughing , you ignorant toad?


60 posted on 01/29/2023 9:57:01 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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