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To: tlozo

Again, you are looking through American eyes, similar to the Vietnam debacle. The only point of view that is relevant is the Russian perception and what they deem to be an existential threat. That is the key to military analysis: think from the adversary’s view point.


50 posted on 01/27/2023 7:58:38 AM PST by Salvavida (“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”)
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To: Salvavida

“I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest.” - Winston Churchill


53 posted on 01/27/2023 8:00:51 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Salvavida
they deem to be an existential threat.

I disagree that Putin sees Ukraine as an "existential threat" especially since NATO membership was not going to happen anytime soon. I believe Putin sees Ukraine as "Malo Russian", not even a country but an area that should be controlled by Moscow.

“It cannot be stressed enough that without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire, but with Ukraine suborned and then subordinated, Russia automatically becomes an empire.”

― Zbigniew Brzezińsk

56 posted on 01/27/2023 8:05:39 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: Salvavida

“The only point of view that is relevant is the Russian perception”

That is a very strange statement. Russia’s neighbors have their own relevant points of view. Russia doesnt get to rule the world just because the Russians feel like it.


60 posted on 01/27/2023 8:10:12 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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