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Steven Crowder versus Big Conservative Media?
American Thinker ^ | 1-26-2023 | Trish Randall

Posted on 01/26/2023 3:24:26 AM PST by servo1969

With his January 17, 2023 video "It's time to stop," Steven Crowder, host and owner of the biggest conservative channel on YouTube, an equally impressive channel on Rumble, and the website Louder with Crowder, spent 28 minutes airing his concerns that conservative media entities are overly helpful to Big Tech control of speech and questioning the effects such business arrangements have on the culture and the country. Crowder described terms offered to him by an unnamed big conservative media company. I immediately thought of bad music industry contracts. Referring to conservative corporations that use contracts to enforce cancel culture as "Big Con," Crowder ended by requesting that viewers enter their email addresses at the website StopBigCon.com, to gauge public interest in the issue.

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Jeremy Boreing of the Daily Wire quickly posted an hour-long response, focused on the terms being part of an initial offer and claiming that they'd negotiate changes to the number of episodes per year and the amount of fines. He emphasized the $50 million offered, multiple times. Boreing has portrayed Crowder as unbusinesslike. But he also copied Crowder's model: some content free on YouTube, controversial content for subscribers.

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Crowder's next video was "I didn't want to do this...," featuring portions of a phone call with Boreing, who dismisses the conservative movement being able to make profits while decoupled from restrictive Big Tech. Boreing says that personalities who sign with D.W. (he says they can be "wage slaves" for a few years) would leave D.W. with their fame and able to make new content, while D.W. owns "part of them," and terms that overwhelmingly favor D.W. are "just business."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: 50millionnotenough; boreing; crowder; dailywire; fakenews; shapiro

Videos:

It's time to stop...

Our Offer to Steven Crowder

I didn't want to do this...

Steven Crowder Says Why He Recorded Private Phone Call, Explains Friends VS Business

1 posted on 01/26/2023 3:24:26 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969
I should have added this video in the previous post. Time-wise it goes just before the last video.

My Response to Steven Crowder's Despicable Betrayal

2 posted on 01/26/2023 3:28:58 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Watched the first video. Have never followed Crowder but catch the drift. I wonder if Bongino is tied to an overbearing contract that muzzles content and threatens punishment. Hannity must be. Who else?


3 posted on 01/26/2023 4:26:42 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (/s)
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To: servo1969

This whole thing has ignited a war within conservative media. IMHO the money involved is becoming a problem, greed has set in. This infighting isn’t good for anyone.

And agree, these contracts remind me of the music industry where an up-and-coming talent will get ripped off on the front side of their career with no promise of ever repeating the success. So the industry makes money but not the talent.


4 posted on 01/26/2023 4:59:22 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: servo1969

I’m with Crowder on this.


5 posted on 01/26/2023 5:38:23 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: servo1969

Crowder fails to understand that if a rising star wants to keep rising, they need to be on Big Tech.

Our side does not have the platforms or infrastructure you get from a YouTube or others yet. They are working on it and one day we can tell Big Tech to kiss off.

But until then, a portion of pay is tied to being on Big Tech, so if you get demonetized, you lose some of your pay.

Shows like TimCast IRL conduct their show within Big Tech guidelines and then use their “members only” portion of the show to discuss things that would get them a strike or demonetized by Big Tech.


6 posted on 01/26/2023 5:41:40 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Make America Florida)
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To: fuzzylogic

Not sure Crowder should have aired all his dirty laundry like he did. Contracts have talks. But he exposed why the big talkers stay away from certain subjects. I remember Rush calling out the sodomites but then abruptly stopped.


7 posted on 01/26/2023 5:45:03 AM PST by stevio (Fight until you die.)
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To: servo1969

Crowder was petulant and burned his bridges big time with his reaction. It was NOT a contract and all he had to do was say, “not interested.”. And to record the conversation and release it as part of a marketing strategy was a real crap thing to do.


8 posted on 01/26/2023 8:07:56 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Crowder fails to understand that if a rising star wants to keep rising, they need to be on Big Tech.

I pretty sure Crowder understands that problem. I've heard him mention it.

I guess he believes there are other routes one can take, and he seems to be putting his career on the line to do that.

9 posted on 01/26/2023 8:27:49 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Organic Panic
Crowder was petulant and burned his bridges big time with his reaction. It was NOT a contract and all he had to do was say, “not interested.”. And to record the conversation and release it as part of a marketing strategy was a real crap thing to do.

Crowder releasing the contract terms was actually very enlightening. I'm glad he did it.

10 posted on 01/26/2023 8:30:20 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

It was not a contract. It was an offer and a starting place to negotiate a contract if he was interested working for Daily Wire. He wasn’t and could have left it at that. There was nothing binding.


11 posted on 01/26/2023 8:34:18 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Organic Panic
It was not a contract. It was an offer and a starting place to negotiate a contract if he was interested working for Daily Wire. He wasn’t and could have left it at that. There was nothing binding.

Sematics.

An offer is a document that contains terms that haven't been agreed upon. A contract is the final offer and terms that has been agreed upon.

As far as Crowder making it a "marketing strategy", how much money did Crowder turn down?

Sure, that's some marketing strategy.

12 posted on 01/26/2023 8:46:15 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

“Sure, that’s some marketing strategy.”

Crowder recorded the calls with DW saved those and this offer for months as his crew started a new web campaign months ago and released all this to bring traffic and subscriptions to his websites.

“I don’t want to do this.” But he did
“It’s not about the money.” He wanted more money


13 posted on 01/26/2023 11:08:40 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Organic Panic
Crowder recorded the calls with DW saved those and this offer for months as his crew started a new web campaign months ago and released all this to bring traffic and subscriptions to his websites.

You didn't answer my question. How much money did Crowder turn down? I heard it was 50 million.

So you think Crowder will earn 50 million from his website traffic?

14 posted on 01/26/2023 11:27:14 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: stevio

What would Rush have done? I’m sure he had his negotiations and went back and forth over the years, but he never talked about it.

People don’t want to know “how the sausage is made”.


15 posted on 01/26/2023 11:28:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Organic Panic

When somebody says “It’s not about the money”, it’s about the money.


16 posted on 01/26/2023 11:29:38 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SharpRightTurn

In the photo above, one has dark hair and one is grey.
Must be cousins...


17 posted on 01/26/2023 3:30:54 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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