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Now that Ukraine is finally getting the tanks it wants, it's already looking for the next big thing — fighter jets
Business Insider ^ | 1/25/2023 | Jake Epstein and John Haltiwanger

Posted on 01/25/2023 4:33:39 PM PST by SaxxonWoods

Ukraine is finally getting the Western-made tanks that it wants, but there's still a few big items on its wishlist. Kyiv says the next thing it wants is fighter jets.

"We have new tasks ahead: Western-type fighter jets, sanctions, Peace Formula implementation," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said after Germany announced on Wednesday it would send Leopard 2 main battle tanks, a decision that followed weeks of mounting pressure by European countries.

Yuriy Sak, an advisor to the Ukrainian defense minister, concurred, telling Reuters that "the next big hurdle will now be the fighter jets." Some others, however, have pointed to long-range missiles.

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To: Obadiah

We just sent 5000 paratroopers to Romania.

I just don’t know why.


21 posted on 01/25/2023 4:48:53 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: SaxxonWoods

22 posted on 01/25/2023 4:49:50 PM PST by norsky ( <P> <a href= > </a> <P><img src=" "width=400"></img>)
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To: Dr. Sivana

No pilots. In fact, forget the fighters. Just give them nukes and bombers and get it over with.
/s


23 posted on 01/25/2023 4:50:01 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Out of one 20 year war (Afghanistan) and right into the next 20 year war.

Thank you, Deep State.

Ike was right about the evil military-industrial complex.


24 posted on 01/25/2023 4:51:35 PM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Ukraine should be made to report on a regular basis exactly what equipment they have received from NATO countries, how much remains in use and disposition of that which isn’t - need of parts, destroyed by enemy, etc.


25 posted on 01/25/2023 4:52:03 PM PST by elpadre (nd )
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To: Dr. Sivana

Just translate the plane manuals into Russian or Ukrainian. They’ll be flying aces in 2 or 3 weeks. It worked against the alien invaders in “Battlefield:Earth”.


26 posted on 01/25/2023 4:52:42 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“Modern equipment and planes without experienced well trained crews and pilots are a waste, IMHO”

Obviously there has to be more than “planes” in the package. Pilots, mechanics, parts, parts and more parts.

Some of the planes that get “shot down” will bring a pretty penny on the black market.


27 posted on 01/25/2023 4:54:16 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: Jyotishi

58th


28 posted on 01/25/2023 4:54:38 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: elpadre

But they won’t, because they are a criminal enterprise.

U.S. citizens are doing their IRS forms this month. Do they realize that their tax dollars are paying for this foreign war?


29 posted on 01/25/2023 4:55:38 PM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/01/25/germans-are-right-to-think-twice-about-sending-leopard-tanks-to-ukraine/


30 posted on 01/25/2023 4:56:13 PM PST by elpadre (nd )
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To: SaxxonWoods

I can see a real sh*tstorm coming, if we do...


31 posted on 01/25/2023 4:56:50 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: MarMema

I drove past the Romanian embassy yesterday...awful lot of vehicles parked out front


32 posted on 01/25/2023 4:56:56 PM PST by Rural_Michigan
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To: miserare

It’s what America does.

I’m starting to agree with Rev. Wright.


33 posted on 01/25/2023 4:58:14 PM PST by Rural_Michigan
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To: MNDude
don’t these things require maintenance and training?

Just a quick start guide.

34 posted on 01/25/2023 4:59:09 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Dr. Sivana

And who is going to fly these fighter jets?

Since Soviet pilots “secretly” fought against us in Korea and Vietnam I guess we’re going to return the favor.


35 posted on 01/25/2023 4:59:17 PM PST by rxh4n1
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To: BipolarBob

I think its time for Russia to end their invasion.


36 posted on 01/25/2023 5:00:01 PM PST by FreshPrince
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To: grobdriver

Boots on the ground seems almost inevitable. Biden and Milley and the rest of the miscreants are sleepwalking the US toward a bad destination.


37 posted on 01/25/2023 5:00:21 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Ok, so Iraq has a couple of dozen F16s. Foreign counties get stripped down versions of our planes.

For folks like the Israelis, they install their own avionics and weapons systems in the planes they buy from us. From talking to Air Force buddies, their stuff is as good, if not better than what we put in our planes.

That being said, the iraqi pilots spent over 2 years learning how to fly those things.

But I’ll bet the Ghost of Kiev will lick it up in a day or two.


38 posted on 01/25/2023 5:01:17 PM PST by qaz123
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To: FreshPrince

Yes, by nuking Kiev!


39 posted on 01/25/2023 5:02:48 PM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: mikey_hates_everything
They’ll be flying aces in 2 or 3 weeks.

Conversion to a front line combat aircraft for a new pilot would usually take about six months to become limited combat ready. However, a more experienced pilot would take less than half that time, and someone requalifying on type after a break would only take a few weeks. If operational reasons demanded, then a much shorter course for experienced pilots learning a new type, focussed only on the relevant tactics and weapons, could be done in four to six weeks, much of which could be done on simulators.

https://www.aerosociety.com/news/ukraine-time-to-fast-track-front-line-fighter-pilot-training/

40 posted on 01/25/2023 5:04:00 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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