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F-16 fighter jets: What are they and could they be sent to help Ukraine?
https://news.sky.com/ ^ | 23 January 2023 | Michael Drummond

Posted on 01/25/2023 1:10:36 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

They can fly at more than 1,200mph and are some of the most advanced aircraft in NATO's fleet. Could the F-16 be sent to Ukraine?

Could F-16 fighter jets soon be screaming over Kharkiv or breaking the sound barrier as they tear through the skies above Zaporizhzhia?

It once seemed impossible, but now? Maybe not.

As the Western world looks to Germany for a decision over Leopard 2 tanks, it was from the Netherlands that a possibly more radical idea was floated: sending Western-made fighter planes to Kyiv for use by Ukrainian pilots.

The Dutch cabinet said will look into supplying F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine if the Kyiv government asks for them, the country's media have reported.

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KEYWORDS: f16; lol; lolol; newtargets; targets; ww3; wwiii
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To: Tupelo
Maybe a quick check of General Dynamics stock would give us an idea if The Government and/or NATO will be sending F-16s and instructors to Ukraine.

Lockheed Martin bought the F-16 line long ago.

41 posted on 01/25/2023 5:46:18 AM PST by pfflier
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To: RomanSoldier19

It can’t be that hard to simply put a bullet in Putin’s head. The only honorable goal here should be to stop the fighting. It think if Russia had a way out the world could scale down from the impending danger here.

I don’t think many people realize the danger were in when two sick loons have their fingers in the nuclear triggers.


42 posted on 01/25/2023 5:49:13 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: Fresh Wind
"Advisors incoming..."

My guess is they are already there.
43 posted on 01/25/2023 5:59:29 AM PST by The Louiswu (- .-. ..- -- .--. / ..--- ----- ..--- ....-)
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To: RomanSoldier19
red-jacket-guy1

44 posted on 01/25/2023 6:03:45 AM PST by The Louiswu (- .-. ..- -- .--. / ..--- ----- ..--- ....-)
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To: Secret Agent Man

These planes will need top gun USA pilots to enforce a No Fly Zone—to save Ukraine lives and hospitals. One F-16 better than any Mig Built. Victory for Ukraine and Biden! Russians will be withdrawing at the sight of a single Tiger tank and a few f-16s. 88 Super tanks, a squadron of F-16 will win the war for Democracy—so all of Europe can be like Brave Ukraine. Biden Forever! Hunter for President after Joe retires to his island.


45 posted on 01/25/2023 6:09:38 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: frank ballenger

The F-16 is primarily an interceptor, and not a particularly good ground attack fighter. Sure, it can be used in that role; but, it is not the best choice. How many Russian aircraft would it be intercepting? I don’t recall this being an air war.


46 posted on 01/25/2023 6:14:49 AM PST by GingisK
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To: FreshPrince

Taint what he said.


47 posted on 01/25/2023 6:17:08 AM PST by GingisK
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To: buwaya
What the Ukrainians actually want to use them for I don’t know. But the above should be effective.

How far is it to Moscow?

What's the combined range of an F-16 and an AMRAAM?

48 posted on 01/25/2023 6:41:31 AM PST by null and void (LibWhacker ~ "Thank goodness for bureaucrats." (taken grossly out of context by nully...))
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To: RomanSoldier19

They are super easy to fly. I saw a movie called Iron Eagle! Just send tape decks, or I guess these days ipods.


49 posted on 01/25/2023 6:46:08 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: buwaya

military procurement is a feature of all civilizations. The Ancient Egyptians probably had a big problem with this.


Well they did manage it for 3,000 years. More, a lot more than can be said of any modern nation.


50 posted on 01/25/2023 6:46:12 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: rdcbn1
Proficiency flying and deploying weapons does no happen over night so it will take close to a year before Ukraine pilots are good to go in an F-16.

If Russia can hire mercenary Serbian infantry, why can't Ukraine hire recently retired American F-16 pilots?

I've venture that nearly every fighter pilot would kill to fly again, so to speak...

51 posted on 01/25/2023 6:48:09 AM PST by null and void (LibWhacker ~ "Thank goodness for bureaucrats." (taken grossly out of context by nully...))
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To: buwaya

S400s cover almost all of Ukraine, but they solidly cover the eastern half.


52 posted on 01/25/2023 6:49:25 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: GingisK

How about we send them the Atomic Cannon? That would take care of so many problems, A few atomic shells would destroy the Ruzzian formations. One Nuke on Moscow and Russia would surrender to hero Ukraine! The USA should do:
1. Insist that Ukraine be made a member of NATO Today!
2. Ukraine must sign a treaty with the USA making her a protectorate of the USA like Porto Rico.
3. A law should be passed making all Ruzzians non-humans and locked away in camps.
4. The USA should sell Russian lands to China.
5. The USA should seize all Oil producing lands from Non-human Orks.
6. The USA should lead the world on the march to Moscow to change their Government to one more democratic like Ukraine.


53 posted on 01/25/2023 6:53:47 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: GingisK

How about we send them the Atomic Cannon? That would take care of so many problems, A few atomic shells would destroy the Ruzzian formations. One Nuke on Moscow and Russia would surrender to hero Ukraine! The USA should do:
1. Insist that Ukraine be made a member of NATO Today!
2. Ukraine must sign a treaty with the USA making her a protectorate of the USA like Porto Rico.
3. A law should be passed making all Ruzzians non-humans and locked away in camps.
4. The USA should sell Russian lands to China.
5. The USA should seize all Oil producing lands from Non-human Orks.
6. The USA should lead the world on the march to Moscow to change their Government to one more democratic like Ukraine.


54 posted on 01/25/2023 6:54:30 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: metmom

Should they? That ‘s a whole ‘nother question.

The quickest way to end this war is for Russia to withdraw from Ukraine and Crimea.

The second quickest way to end the war is to bring Combined Arms with modern tanks APCs IFVs and fighters to bear on the antiquated, poorly supplied, and led Russian forces.

That means Leopards, MIs, Bradleys, Strikers, and F16s together with the Brigades now being trained on Combined Arms at troop and staff levels along with pieces already there like HARMs and HIMARS.

The only thing lacking is AC-130Js with which the Wagners have intimate knowledge from an encounter with an older version.


55 posted on 01/25/2023 6:57:49 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Hulka

And setting up the logistical supply train is a huge undertaking,

Supplies already exist in Europe. F16 Training last 1 year.


56 posted on 01/25/2023 7:00:35 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: rdcbn1

“There is currently no plausible way Ukraine defeats Russia.”

There no plausible way Britain defeats Germany


57 posted on 01/25/2023 7:32:59 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: GingisK

“I hope Russia wipes Nato out for the good of humanity and freedom.”

NATO=USA


58 posted on 01/25/2023 7:34:31 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Someone went off the deep end.

Someone went off the deep end.

59 posted on 01/25/2023 7:52:00 AM PST by GingisK
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To: FreshPrince

Perhaps the issue he has is with NATO. It has served only to cost us a great deal of money and to place our guys in harm’s way for the sake of someone else’s problems. Now that we bailed Europe out of WWII, rebuilt them from the ground up, what have any of those countries done for us? Nothing.


60 posted on 01/25/2023 7:54:49 AM PST by GingisK
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