Posted on 01/23/2023 3:05:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
Should an elderly grandmother be forced to hand over millions of dollars to the government for failing to file a particular form?
The Supreme Court today rejected to consider a case on whether some Internal Revenue Service (IRS) penalties are actually unconstitutionally excessive fines.
The case revolves around Monica Toth, an 82-year-old Boston-area woman who the IRS wants to seize more than $2 million from because she ran afoul of IRS documentation guidelines.
In the 1930s, Toth's family fled from Nazi Germany to Argentina, where she was born. Toth moved to America at age 22 and later became a U.S. citizen. Toth's father, a successful businessman, gifted Toth millions of dollars in a Swiss bank account before dying in 1999.
The federal Bank Secrecy Act establishes various record and reporting guidelines for citizens, including a mandatory annual form for any American citizen with more than $10,000 in a foreign bank—the Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR). Toth was not filing this form with her taxes and claimed she wasn't aware of the requirement. Once she knew of the form's requirement, she contacted the IRS to attempt to come into compliance. The IRS audited her in 2011, finding she overpaid her taxes some years and underpaid others. She ended up paying $40,000 in penalties for her mistakes.
But that's not where the story ends. Under federal law, there's a penalty for failing to file an FBAR, and it's a doozy. The maximum penalty for failing to file the report is either $100,000 or half the value of the account's balance, whichever is greater. The IRS called her failure to file the right form "reckless" and has been attempting to levy a $2.1 million civil penalty, half the money in the account, along with an additional million dollars in late fees and interest.
Toth turned to the Institute for Justice (I.J.) for assistance. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit agreed with the IRS, so I.J. requested that the Supreme Court intervene. The fight isn't over whether the IRS has the power to penalize people for failing to file proper forms. The fight is over whether the penalty in this case is excessive given the circumstances and, therefore, a violation of the Eighth Amendment. The United States has been trying to argue that a criminal "fine" for wrongdoing is different from a civil penalty and, therefore, not subject to the Eighth Amendment's restrictions of excessive punishment.
Today, the Supreme Court declined to hear Toth's case. Justice Neil Gorsuch dissented from the rejection and wrote separately to explain that the Supreme Court has previously ruled that the excessive fines clause in the Eighth Amendment can be applied in situations other than those that are most obviously rendered to those who are convicted of crimes. He concludes that clearly the massive penalty against Toth is intended to be a form of punishment meant to deter her and others from violating the law:
The government did not calculate Ms. Toth's penalty with reference to any losses or expenses it had incurred. The government imposed its penalty to punish her and, in that way, deter others. Even supposing, however, that Ms. Toth's penalty bore both punitive and compensatory purposes, it would still merit constitutional review. Under our cases a fine that serves even "in part to punish" is subject to analysis under the Excessive Fines Clause.
Gorsuch would have had the Court take up the case. But he appears to have been alone. No other justices signed onto his dissent.
"Monica's experience shows that civil penalties can have devastating consequences for real people," said Sam Gedge, a senior attorney for I.J., in a statement released after the justices declined to hear the case. "Naturally, we're disappointed that the Court declined to take up this case. The Excessive Fines Clause should serve as a key check on economic sanctions, and we hope the First Circuit will heed Justice Gorsuch's dissent and correct its misreading of the Excessive Fines Clause in future cases."
The members of the Supreme Court don’t want to be audited by the IRS.
>>In the 1930s, Toth’s family fled from Nazi Germany to Argentina,
which has nothing to do with the law she violated. Don’t like the law, vote to change it - the fact that 90 years ago your family fled Nazi Germany is besides-the-fact.
Supreme Court Also Declines To Discuss Their Apparent Agreement Not To Leak The Identity Of Their Leaker...
How dare Gorsuch side against Thomas and Alito.
How dare Kavanaugh and Barrett side with the libs.
The government did not calculate Ms. Toth’s penalty with reference to any losses or expenses it had incurred.
Fine was based on number of units I owned, not the incidence.
Once she knew of the form’s requirement, she contacted the IRS to attempt to come into compliance
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She’ll never do that again.
” the fact that 90 years ago your family fled Nazi Germany is besides-the-fact.”
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It’s the entire point. But you didn’t understand it. Ask an adult...
20 years- that’s all? Insurrection!(/S)
“The federal Bank Secrecy Act establishes various record and reporting guidelines for citizens, including a mandatory annual form for any American citizen with more than $10,000 in a foreign bank”
That to me is real problem (what is wrong with the law) - it’s none of the federal government’s business what assets I have in a foreign bank, provided it is not ill-gotten gains from some domestic U.S. transaction(s). AND That to me should also require the burden of proof on the federal government, not a “guilty until proven innocent” sort of status.
Minus that federal financial witch hunt law (requiring the form) the poor woman could not have needed to be in court to protect her money to begin with.
How about showing some courage to demonstrate that you WILL NOT BE INTIMIDATED?!?!?!
FAIRtax ping!
Help us replace the Marxist inspired progressive income tax with a simple point of sale retail consumption tax, the FAIRtax, and ABOLISH the IRS!
Go to https://www.fairtax.org to find out how you can help us!
We will never be a FRee country so long as we have an income tax and an IRS!
Supremes want to get paid too.
The government is utterly loathsome.
More theft by government.
IRS is akin to the mob.
You cannot blame the Justices too much...
After all, they have a jungle witch doctor sitting on the end of the bench continually casting bones, sharpening her knives, and dancing naked in circles...
They know she will explode at some point, or bring a bunch of teenagers to a court session...
They will certainly mob & beat down some evil white guys...
If I understand this case correctly, I disagree with the Supreme Court's response to this issue.
After all, Monica Toth not only probably did not open the indicated Swiss bank account, but she seems to have contacted the IRS about this situation in good faith.
Next, speaking of the IRS, I don't see the non-popularly elected bureaucrats running the constitutionally undefined IRS mentioned in the Constitution's Article I, Section 1 (1.1).
"Article I, Section 1; All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives [and the IRS?]."
“3. The Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary as distinguished from technical meaning; where the intention is clear, there is no room for construction and no excuse for interpolation or addition.” —United States v. Sprague, 1931.
In fact, the drafters of the Constitution had intended for popularly elected representatives to risk losing their offices if they made laws that voters weren't happy with.
In other words, when non-elected federal bureaucrats, bureaucrats whom corrupt career lawmakers probably hide behind, make unpopular regulations that citizens must comply with, bureaucrats effectively wrongly weaken the constitutionally enumerated voting power of ordinary citizens imo.
Next, theoretically speaking, even if the IRS had been mentioned in 1.1, if Toth was disputing an excess IRS penalty, do the Supremes have a clue about the "excess" unconstitutional taxes that all taxpayers have been paying probably since the 16th Amendment (direct taxes) was ratified imo?
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).
Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." (non-FR; 6 sec.)
“Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves [emphasis added]. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)
The bottom line imo, is that ALL the states desperately need to effectively "secede" from the unconstitutionally big federal government by repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A).
If the proposed amendment was limited strictly to repealing 16&17A, relatively little or ideally no discussion would be needed before ratification of the amendment imo.
>>It’s the entire point. But you didn’t understand it. Ask an adult...
So laws don’t apply to people’s who grandparents were persecuted by the Nazi’s? Got it.
Same thinking that blacks thinking the are owed reparations because 6 generations back a relative might have been a slave.
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