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Russia warns of retaliation against West over providing Ukraine with powerful weapons
https://www.nydailynews.com ^ | Jan 22, 2023 | By Ellen Wulfhorst

Posted on 01/22/2023 4:58:56 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

Russia threatened to retaliate against the U.S. and other Western nations if they provide more powerful weapons to Ukraine, warning on Sunday that stepped-up military aid from allies would trigger a “global catastrophe.”

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To: ought-six

Listen to them screaming like children over a lousy war in central Europe started by a Russia that is a pathetic shadow of what it used to be.

When I see these types post all I can picture is America in a war and these are the worst creeps telling us to give up that we’re all going to die. And they are the ones that you eliminate from your foxhole as quick as possible.

They have no loyalty to America in fact they mock people who stand up to America’s enemies or stand up for liberty.

They tell you that America and its government is the real enemy. These are the people who in a time of real war have to be marginalized in the 1st days.

Their arguments are straight out of the sixties and seventies anti war leftist handbook.

Some of them even say this is a new Vietnam. So they are the new seventies hippies. Wrong then and wrong now.


101 posted on 01/23/2023 12:33:19 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: ought-six
ROFL!

The problem is that you resorted to whining about "Bullying" as though it were a magic incantation.

That is the behavior of a pearl-clutching soi-boi.

I disagree with the charge, because Merkel herself admitted to what the Russians had given as the casus belli: that the Minsk accords were a sham, to buy time for the Ukraine to arm up.

And this is bolstered by a cursory look at the MSM, which before a year ago had ZERO problems calling out the Azov battalion as literal Nazis.

And yes, I keep my articles on my home page. I don't have a blog, so that way I can find them again.

Go through my posting history and see what a small proportion of my posts are spent referring to my home page: when I do, it is to link to a specific article which has once again become timely.

It is not a general practice.

102 posted on 01/23/2023 1:02:19 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: Williams

It is self-evident what you are.

You are a bloviating idiot talking about nuclear weapons like they are toys. Like you found your daddys pistol and are showing it off on the playground thinking it makes you a big man.

You are beyond reason, but maybe folks reading this will take this rebuke of your obvious failures and lack of perception of consequences and learn from it.

Other than that we are good, right bro?


103 posted on 01/23/2023 1:07:39 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

I know that’s what you are, but what am I?

We’re good.


104 posted on 01/23/2023 1:10:37 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: MarMema
“what nation would be stupid enough to side with a loser like Putin at this point?”

China, Pakistan,Belarus, North Korea, Iran for starters.

Yeah, those are some real "heavy-hitters," aren't they?!

"A man is judged by the company he keeps." Applies to countries, too. While it's true that weakling Biden has sided with Ukraine in this conflict - and I'm not proud of that fact - having friends and allies like Pakistan, Belarus, N. Korea, and Iran is hardly an endorsement I'd want to crow about!

A group of tin-pot dictators and Islamo-terror states are not the most reliable of "friends."

Regards,

105 posted on 01/23/2023 1:12:52 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: grey_whiskers

“The problem is that you resorted to whining about ‘Bullying’ as though it were a magic incantation.”

Nope, not whining at all. Just pointing out the facts.

“That is the behavior of a pearl-clutching soi-boi.”

I could say the same thing about anything you post. It is meaningless unless you are, indeed, suffering the vapors. Pointing out facts is just that: Pointing out facts.

“I disagree with the charge, because Merkel herself admitted to what the Russians had given as the casus belli: that the Minsk accords were a sham, to buy time for the Ukraine to arm up.”

I assume you are referring to the interview she gave Die Zeit and Der Spiegel and some others. You — and the various pro-Russia organs who intentionally misrepresented what she said — ran with that misrepresentation. She said this about Minsk: “At the time, it brought calm and gave Ukraine, for example, a lot of time, seven years, to develop into what it is today.”

You can read about it here:

https://www.dw.com/en/angela-merkel-opens-up-on-ukraine-putin-and-her-legacy/a-62052345

The Russian talking points are debunked here:

https://mythdetector.ge/en/what-did-merkel-say-about-ukraine-in-the-interviews-with-der-spiegel-and-die-zeit/

“And yes, I keep my articles on my home page. I don’t have a blog, so that way I can find them again.”

You don’t need a blog. You can keep them on your computer, and just copy and paste them as you see fit when the situation warrants it. But then, of course, you wouldn’t be able to advertise your “Greatest Hits.”


106 posted on 01/23/2023 2:38:14 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six
“The problem is that you resorted to whining about ‘Bullying’ as though it were a magic incantation.”

Nope, not whining at all. Just pointing out a misleading subset of the facts while using emotionally-laden, content-free terms.

“That is the behavior of a pearl-clutching soi-boi.” (this line is quoting your quote of me).

I could say the same thing about anything you post.

Factually untrue. Go read my re-posting of high-level scientific discussion of the clot-shots' effects on the immune system.

It is meaningless unless you are, indeed, suffering the vapors. Pointing out facts is just that: Pointing out facts.

Which you are not doing.

I assume you are referring to the interview she gave Die Zeit and Der Spiegel and some others. You — and the various pro-Russia organs who intentionally misrepresented what she said — ran with that misrepresentation. She said this about Minsk: “At the time, it brought calm and gave Ukraine, for example, a lot of time, seven years, to develop into what it is today.”

Uh-huh. Full of weasel-wording throughout. The actual quote from YOUR article is:

Merkel said the Minsk agreement — a 2014 deal she helped broker to ease the conflict between government forces and Russian-backed separatists — while not entirely palatable to the Ukrainians, bought important time for Ukraine.

"This agreement was commended, approved, welcomed by the EU. This agreement has been incorporated into a UN Security Council resolution, so it has the character of international law," she said.

"At the time, it brought calm and gave Ukraine, for example, a lot of time, seven years, to develop into what it is today."

Try reading up on what the Russians think about that. Apparently you haven't.

(The Russians words and deeds have been consistent; that of the West, not so much. As the remainder of your article has the gall to bring up Nordstream 2, without mentioning the Western sabotage of it.)

You don’t need a blog. You can keep them on your computer, and just copy and paste them as you see fit when the situation warrants it. But then, of course, you wouldn’t be able to advertise your “Greatest Hits.”

It's a lot easier to have the live link to FR rather than cutting and pasting, since if I wish to have the original source for the user it's already right there as a hyperlink; and, since you continued your baldfaced lie, I don't advertise my articles.

In the meantime, I hope you don't live anywhere too near the coast along the Acela corridor.

107 posted on 01/23/2023 3:03:15 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.))
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To: grey_whiskers

“...a misleading subset of the facts while using emotionally-laden, content-free terms.”

Such as?

“Factually untrue. Go read my re-posting of high-level scientific discussion of the clot-shots’ effects on the immune system.”

What? Some of your “greatest hits?” If you want me to read something you wrote, post it here for all to see.

“Which you are not doing.”

Which I HAVE been doing: You just don’t like them.

“Uh-huh. Full of weasel-wording throughout.”

Too funny! I quoted her exact comment. How is that “weasel-wording?”

“Try reading up on what the Russians think about that. Apparently you haven’t.”

Oh, I have. And their organs print them. Such as the misrepresentations you all love to parrot.

“The Russians words and deeds have been consistent; that of the West, not so much. As the remainder of your article has the gall to bring up Nordstream 2, without mentioning the Western sabotage of it.”

Oh, this is too easy! Son, the article addressing the interview was dated June 7, 2022. The blasts at the Nordstream pipelines occurred on September 22, 2022. How in the hell was the article supposed to comment on something that hadn’t even happened, and wouldn’t happen for another three and a half months?

You are too emotional, son. You let your emotions carry you into deep water — such as your comment above about Nordstream — where you flounder.


108 posted on 01/23/2023 3:29:09 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Senor Reconquistador says white people can pack up their chattels and leave the Southwest US if they don’t feel like using the Spanish language or if they are unwilling to accept woke reforms.


109 posted on 01/23/2023 5:10:37 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: ought-six

“But they did NOT have the right to take Ukrainian territory with them as if it were a steamer trunk.”

In 1990 Ukraine unilaterally declared autonomy from the Soviet Union.


110 posted on 01/23/2023 5:14:09 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: ought-six

American Rebels:

Just take your chattels and get the blank off my dominions.

George III


111 posted on 01/23/2023 5:17:57 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

“In 1990 Ukraine unilaterally declared autonomy from the Soviet Union.”

The timeline: July 16, 1990, the new Ukrainian Parliament (Rada) votes to declare independence; August, 1991 Boris Yeltsin disbands the Communist Party of the USSR, effectively taking over all Soviet operations and institutions; August 24, 1991 Ukraine declares independence; December 1, 1991 the Ukrainian people voted overwhelmingly for independence; December 2, 1991 Poland, Canada, and Russia (still a constituent republic of the USSR at that time) recognize Ukraine’s independence (other nations soon followed); December 12, 1991 Russia ceases to be a constituent republic of the USSR; December 26, 1991 the Soviet Union is formally dissolved.


112 posted on 01/23/2023 6:04:47 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: alexander_busek

The west turned him away. A guy’s gotta have friends.


113 posted on 01/23/2023 6:32:15 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: ought-six

No I don’t.


114 posted on 01/23/2023 6:32:57 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: ought-six

You support globalism, Biden, western “values” 😂😂😂,
Blackrock, and a cocaine addict.

Speaking of losers - even Putin has better company ethically.


115 posted on 01/23/2023 6:35:22 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: Williams

When the sirens go, I hope you make time to let us know we were correct.

The Belgorod can hit the WH from the Atlantic in 3-4 minutes.
And it bypasses our detection systems.

So never mind, there may not be any sirens.

It is off the east coast currently, btw. Has been seen coming up a few times.

I think I asked you before if you live on the east coast?
Or are you in Latvia? 😂😂😂


116 posted on 01/23/2023 6:40:01 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: MarMema

“No I don’t.”

I’m glad to hear you don’t terrify your kids with your hyperventilating and sensationalism.


117 posted on 01/23/2023 6:40:14 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: MarMema

Nice try, son.


118 posted on 01/23/2023 6:41:32 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

French ex president Holland also said in public that Merkel was correct.
They had no intention of following through on Minsk. It was a lie to give Ukraine time to build an army.

Now who is the victim?


119 posted on 01/23/2023 6:47:44 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: ought-six

To be sure no one taught you to debate growing up.

You simply call names and make sarcastic comments.

Where did you grow up? Did you have any college speech courses?

Maybe its not too late, boy.


120 posted on 01/23/2023 6:49:52 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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