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To: Nextrush

Good.
Debating foreign policy is good. I’m tired of reading made up stories about the plot to destroy Russia.

You have Russia, a strategic enemy, launching a major invasion in Europe which will not be the last if anyone listens to Putin’s public statements of intent.
Russia could end this simply by not invading.
Russian success will put Putin next to Poland, and after that its Germany. Poland warned about this for years.
If you listen to many of the Russia apologists, they call for Germany to abandon NATO and to join Russia in running Eastern Europe.
Russia has demanded that NATO withdraw from ALL of the former Soviet occupied countries.
So “I know people who want to weaken Russia” is not a valid explanation for this war.
And the fear that you must let Russia win or the world will end was repeated by the left for 50 years. As always, basing policy on nuclear blackmail would lead to a collapse of the West.


6 posted on 01/21/2023 9:47:47 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Ah….you’ve arrived.


11 posted on 01/21/2023 10:00:47 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: Williams

“Russia has demanded that NATO withdraw from ALL of the former Soviet occupied countries.”

Really? Like East Germany?

Is Ukraine a former Soviet occupied country, or is it an original constituent founding member of the USSR?


21 posted on 01/21/2023 10:35:51 PM PST by CapandBall
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To: Williams
We defeated the USSR but that wasn't enough for you war mongering Neocons.   Now we will find out if Klaus Schwab has his way with US.   He will hide in his bunker counting radiation half-lifes, but you will be dead like the rest of us, I hope, or maybe you are just a shill for the Global Elite.

Ask yourself why it's the Left that is all in for this destruction suddenly, when they were against it for fifty years.

33 posted on 01/22/2023 12:01:59 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Williams

Well talk about your self fulfilling prophecies; Russia wasn’t hostile towards the west before but you can bet they sure will be now. You can also bet that when they are finished in Ukraine they are gonna come looking and not only at the countries that were supplying money, weapons, training but also to the countries that stole their super yachts and seized their funds. These warmongers have no idea what kind of future they’ve given us with their arrogance


48 posted on 01/22/2023 3:26:56 AM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: Williams

It’s pretty obvious some here have managed to convince themselves that the plot against Trump was just about Trump and wasnt just a sideshow to the larger psyop to convince everyone that Russia is our mortal enemy, bent on destroying us. Think. THINK. THINK!


55 posted on 01/22/2023 4:41:21 AM PST by Palmetto State Conservative
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To: Williams

Russian success will put Putin next to Poland, and after that its Germany. Poland warned about this for years.

Look at the map. Russia is already next to Poland. Plus its puppet Belarus gives them a very long indefensible border.


65 posted on 01/22/2023 5:56:56 AM PST by rxh4n1
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To: Williams

Mebe, if only, NATO had not embarked on a slow continous creep towards Russia’s border......


70 posted on 01/22/2023 7:05:16 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Williams

Mebe, if only, NATO had not embarked on a slow continous creep towards Russia’s border......


71 posted on 01/22/2023 7:05:16 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Williams

Keep banging your war drum and it will all get better.


73 posted on 01/22/2023 7:11:28 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: Williams
Professor of International Relations, John Mearsheimer, in 2015:

" The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked. "

Fifty American foreign policy leaders wrote to President Bill Clinton in 1997 that pushing NATO’s borders eastward would be “a policy error of historic proportions. ..... that NATO expansion will decrease allied security and unsettle European stability … In Russia, NATO expansion, which continued to be opposed across the entire political spectrum, would strengthen undercut those who favor reform and cooperation with the West, bring the Russians to question the entire post-Cold War settlement, and galvanize resistance in the Duma …” (and here we are today)


91 posted on 01/22/2023 8:30:23 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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