Defense chiefs fail to resolve dispute on tanks for Ukraine

Lol I could come back with something like cranked would do and say I am not your research assistant….
It is obvious we are not going to agree on the war in Ukraine and how it is being handled. I don’t think this was about Putin and Ukraine was his Cuba moment. If so why didn’t t he invade Poland Lithuanian Estonia and Latvia. All NATO countries on his border? Wouldn’t that be a bit like Canada and Mexico being Warsaw block countries and we decide to get tough with Cuba?
For some reason I can’t figure out how to post links but may I suggest you do a search on FR for Macgregor and look at all the articles. Just scroll through them and you will see all his predictions
In one before the war with tucker he talks about Russia going in with 130-140000 troops well just this month he said it was only 80000, he says Putin went in because he does not want nato missiles and troops in eastern Ukraine but his prewar speech talked about how Ukraine was not a legitimate country and belonged with Russia
Continue along and nearly every month there is a prediction of war over, coming Russian offensive, 30000 Ukrainian troops surrounded, There is one in oct or nov where he predicts Odessa will fall not to mention his Kiev will fall in three days but I will give him that I did too.
Obviously you have the right to follow who you want and believe what you want, I certainly don’t disagree with you on everything esp about what is going on here in the US and the border weaponization of fib doj cdc cia nsa media Facebook twitter(pre Elon) woking of country and military.
There is a lot of corruption going on with this war and in Ukraine but bottom line this is putins war against a sovereign nation, it doesn’t matter if he does not think it’s so and further how much aid do you think we gave to Russia in WW2 was siphoned off and made people rich. The Ukrainians are fighting for their country and I think we should help them. I know the cost I deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq and all war is a tragedy. The blame for this is on Putin

You put Kamala to shame with your word salad response.

You are good at proving one thing, and that is that you are nothing more than a useful idiot. In addition, you are a person of evil.

I wasn't asking for you to be my research assistant I was asking you to prove that Col. Douglas MacGregor actually said the things you claimed he said. Because like your idol Zelenskyy, you have absolutely no qualms about lying to promote your false narratives. I did so because I knew you couldn't provide it because he never made those statements you claim he made.

I also knew you couldn't square the BS Biden being oh so concerned about Ukraine's sovereignty while he has expressed not one iota of concern for the invasion along our southern border.

You're a complete fraud.

Lol the research part was a joke because I asked someone once about his claims and he responded by saying he didn’t have the time to be my research assistant so relax not directed at you
As to my claims I made a simple request do a search on Macgregor on free republic you know what we are on right now 😀

There like we do on FR are articles related to Macgregor and what he has said. If you go through them you will see with his own words what I am saying is true

If you choose not to and just like to call me names that is fine I can handle it.

I was far more interested in you squaring how Joe Biden is so genuinely concerned about Ukraine's sovereignty when he has zero concern for this country for which he is supposedly the leader of.

I also desire to know why Zelenskyy would be far more willing to take his country to war, and displace large numbers of the citizens, while placing the remainder in dire straits.

Neither man should be supported, especially when there was a guaranteed solution. That being simply the cessation of the terroristic acts upon the Russian speaking citizens.

If it had been proven to not be guaranteed, then at least that option had been exhausted before war became more of the only option availaable.

I enjoy our back and forth
Biden not caring about the US proven, and supporting Ukraine two different subjects
BTW I-assume you looked at freeper history of Macgregors predictions and have no comment

Curious why Putin would invade a sovereign nation for the second time and kill indiscriminately civilians with his missiles.

Russia invaded Crimea and illegally took the two other oblasts hell even Iran does not recognize these actions. Again just because Putin thinks Ukraine is his does not make it so.
The fact that parts of Ukraine are majority Russian speaking has more to do with decades under the Soviet Union where only Russian was taught in schools and millions of Ukrainians were murdered displaced and replaced with Russian carpet baggers
Crimea is a prime example ask the Ukrainians and Tartars that used to live there well at least the ones who weren’t murdered or sent to gulags

Biden not caring about the US proven, and supporting Ukraine two different subjects

Why? They are the same topic, invasion. So, why do you make a distinction between the two? What I'm looking from you is how you can believe that his attention being turned to Ukraine is helpful to this nation in any way, shape or form.

Is Ukraine of strategic importance to the well being of this nation? Do you believe Biden has a genuine concern for Ukraine's sovereignty, or is there an ulterior motive at play? If it is an ulterior motive, what is that motive? Do you believe that Biden cares about Ukraine or her citizens?

Is the invasion to our southern border benign? Is that invasion impacting your currently? Does it impact your children & grandchildren? Will it impact us further down the road of time? Do you think Biden cares about the citizens of the U.S.?

BTW I-assume you looked at freeper history of Macgregors (sic) predictions and have no comment

You assume wrong, because I will never look it up. You made the claims that he said those things, so I asked you to prove that he actually said that. You believe a lot of things that are not true. Therefore, I won't accept your statements until you can show me them. For I need context, as well as, actual proof that you are not just taking what someone else has said. I have listened to pretty much every video, and I never heard him say either of those 2 statements you say he made.

If you choose not to do so, I'm fine with that because I still accept his analysis of the subject matter of combat, then I do yours or the sources you choose to accept.

Because those sources are the same one who told us Covid was deadly, tried to shame people into taking the "vaccines" that are not vaccines. They even had to change the definition of the word vaccine in order for them to fit the definition of vaccine, because they didn't before the change was made.

They are the same sources that have said the 2020 election was safe & secure, and above all else, the most honest election ever.

Those sources you listen to have been lying to the American public for at least 2 decades now that I have noticed then doing so.

Once you respond to this, then we can continue with further discussion.

NATO exists to defend against Russian aggression. Right now we are supplying arms that were meant to defend against Russian aggression. It matters not to me that Ukraine is not a member, and as I have said before the weapons we are sending we’re to be used against Russian aggression and they are
What Biden does here does not change my opinion in the correctness of the actions
Roosevelt was a tool and corrupt and many of his polices were terrible for the country. Let’s see if the repubes can do anything to reign him in and hold those responsible to account have my doubts since most are part of the swamp line McConnell and gramnsty

You tell me critical thinking and information are important, you obviously use FR as a source of information and yet you won’t take the time to do a search for Macgregor on FREE REPUBLIC?

You will “never” look up information that is on this exact site we are on?
The content that you require is there

I challenge you that you are not actually interested in the truth.

Well, you know what; we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect this nation & her citizens, and that Constitution supersedes any NATO obligation. But Russia invading a non NATO country, which Ukraine is, means that it is not even a NATO problem at all.

Well, it's quite obvious that you don't care if they are a NATO nation or not, but why did you mention NATO then?

Roosevelt was a tool and corrupt and many of his polices were terrible for the country.

I'll agree, even though it has no bearing on the discussion whatsoever, as Roosevelt isn't even alive. Or were you trying to do what you accuse me of, change the topic? Oh, but you already did that didn't you when you mentioned that Russia & Germany signed a pact back at the beginnings of WWII in a previous back & forth that you claimed you enjoy. But you are like Biden, you lie about everything, and for what purpose I have no clue. Are you just a habitual liar?

Let’s see if the repubes can do anything to reign him in and hold those responsible to account have my doubts since most are part of the swamp line McConnell and gramnsty

The good Lord already reigned in Roosevelt on April 12, 1945 at the age of 63. So, why would anyone need to reign him in? Are you a drinker by any chance? Never mind, you are trying to lead me off topic again because you have no sensible answers at all with in your reach.

You tell me critical thinking and information are important, you obviously use FR as a source of information and yet you won’t take the time to do a search for Macgregor on FREE REPUBLIC?

There you go again with your projections and incorrect assumptions, even though I often provide links to back up my claims. I even look for the links of sources that I know you deem are legit. Which means they are not links to Free Republic. If I do link to a Free Republic post it's because that post links to an article that is of importance.

I challenge you that you are not actually interested in the truth.

Since you have the truth, as you claim, bring the truth to me. It's that simple.

But you have no intention to honestly engage in dialogue with me, because you really haven't the capacity to do so.

Heck, I asked you several very easy questions and you didn't address even a single one of them. Instead you offered up gibberish and nonsense.

I won't stop attacking yo though, because you deserve to be attacked. Especially, when you are supporting a policy that is ruining this nation that I love dearly and want to pass it along as I knew it when I old enough to became aware, to my children, grandchildren, and my great grandchildren.

I have never even heard you say that, and I doubt you are even an American citizen at all.

It’s been fun but you are set and that is fine

On the one hand you project fear of Russia, on the other hand you project ridicule of Russia

Fear of the Soviet Union was rational, fear of Russia is not so rational. Both Ukraine & Russia are corrupt. Problem is our government has also become corrupt.

I have no interest in fixing any other nation until we fix our nation, period.

When we try to fix Ukraine, we are only further destroying our nation, because the principles there support the corrupt criminals here, as well as, the egomaniacal lunatics of the WEF/UN who desire to be our masters.

If you are a 39.5 year veteran, then thank you for your service, but if you can't see that this whole Ukraine/Russia conflict is a product of evil, then I feel sorry for you. Your service was in vain. Even if Ukraine were to win, when we fall they will fall as will the world.

Zelenskyy has sold out his nation quite a while ago now, to the One World Government/New World Order. He did so when he agreed to allow the proxy war to be held in his country and to use his citizens as fodder. Even he doesn't care about his country, he only cares about enriching himself and securing his position of power. That's why he is doing his traveling fund raising tour right now. But I seriously doubt he will ever see that power, really. I think his own people will kill him if they get the chance, and as they are falling, that will be their chance.

I understand your position and agree with much of it. Just watch how the classified documents issue was handled between Pres Trump and xiden as well as everything else and it is obvious
The only reason that the doc issue is even being played out right now with xiden is they are looking for a way to keep him from running again, doubt they want to replace him

Watching all my fellow service members sacrifice over the last 40 years and what for. We did our duty but the ones pulling the strings I have no respect for.

They had to get rid of Pres Trump he was wrecking their good times.

Regardless I still think Ukrainians should be supported against invasion by Putin

I meant what I said may God bless you and may God bless the United States of America
Take care

Regardless I still think Ukrainians should be supported against invasion by Putin

I would too, if they hadn't provoked the invasion to begin with. First with the coup d'etat, then followed by 8 years of terroristic acts against the Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens, and lastly by the outright selection of Zelenskyy to be president. People say, but I'm not sure of what they say, that Zelenskyy ran on ending that conflict, but either had no intention of doing so, or he let the U.S. & Britain to convince him to not seek the resolution that could have avoided all of this death & destruction we are now seeing. Then Zelenskyy bought into the One World Government/New World Order like a big dog, which basically means the Ukrainian people will never be free unless we manage to defeat the WEF & the megalomaniac elites of the world.

In the meantime, these same people who have fomented this this proxy war, are the same evil people who have been robbing the American public, destroying the middle class, and selling freedom down the river to the benefit of themselves, along with the megalomaniac elites of the world. It's the Military/Industrial Complex that Eisenhower spoke of, that is controlling this nation & subverting her, and is the creator of the Deep State.

That's why I don't understand, nor will I ever understand, how you could in any way, shape, or form, support this conflict. You of all people should see that evil is in control, and that you are supporting evil.

So, forgive me, I cannot support the conflict, which in turns means that I will have to continue fighting you too, and that makes me very sad to say the least. You are not helping the Ukrainian people. The best you can do at this point is stop the insanity and work to get the best possible arrangement before this escalates into WWIII. It's insanity to do anything else. Turn your efforts towards minimalization and saving this nation. Because once this nation is gone, the world descends into evil.

If you want The Lord to Bless this nation, forget about blessing me because my blessing from the Lord is my responsibility, then you must begin to recognize that you are not on the Lord's side in this issue. Because that would mean that the Lord would have to overlook the evil that started this conflict in the first place.

Look beyond the conflict and you will begin to see the much larger picture. This is a battle of Biblical proportions between good & evil. It's not about the salvation of Ukraine at all.

But I will also say that we share far more in common than we do in disagreement, which is why I will pray that you finally begin to see why you are in error, and that you rectify your stance. Sincerely hope to see you on the other side. 👍

United we stand, divided we fall. 🙏

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