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Ex-Colonel Outlines How Ukraine Can 'Lease' an Air Force From U.S.
Newsweak via MSN ^ | 1/19/2023 | Story by Nick Reynolds • Tuesday

Posted on 01/20/2023 4:13:02 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

former U.S. military official has outlined a road map for Ukraine to pursue efforts to "lease out" a mercenary air force from the U.S. government as the country struggles to maintain air superiority in its war with Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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1 posted on 01/20/2023 4:13:02 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
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Flying Tigers. That went well. No way that’s gonna get us into a shooting war with Japan.


2 posted on 01/20/2023 4:19:01 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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The USAF has the the world’s set of planes

The world’s second best are those sitting in the boneyards of Arizona.

There are 1000 F-16s alone sitting their gathering sand that we have no plans to use again.

Bring over a bunch of Ukrainians. Train them on our planes. Send them back the Ukraine. War is over soon after at much lower expense than we are currently investing.


3 posted on 01/20/2023 4:21:56 AM PST by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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4 posted on 01/20/2023 4:24:15 AM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit;“We are your ghosts, in this game played by monkeys, organized by lunatics” )
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Step by step closer to war with Russia. Where those planes fly from will become legitimate targets.


5 posted on 01/20/2023 4:24:17 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: Renfrew
War is over soon after at much lower expense than we are currently investing.

That defeats the purpose of having the stupid war in the first place.

Why use aircraft destined for the scrap heap when you can use F-22 Raptors at a cost of $200 million apiece? Corporate-government fascism doesn’t work if you’re prudent with money.

6 posted on 01/20/2023 4:25:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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Ex-Colonel Outlines How Ukraine Can 'Lease' an Air Force From U.S.

Simple, train Ukrainian pilots. No one wants US servicemen involved in the war, not the US and not Ukraine.

7 posted on 01/20/2023 4:27:19 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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>> Simple, train Ukrainian pilots.

Yeah it should only take a week to train a Ukie to fly a jet, right? Ten days at the outside.

Simple.


8 posted on 01/20/2023 4:43:30 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: MCF
Step by step closer to war with Russia. Where those planes fly from will become legitimate targets.

Yes, it must be the fault of those who are helping Ukraine defend itself, not of the Russians who invaded.

9 posted on 01/20/2023 4:45:49 AM PST by Petrosius
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And the U,S, will pay for it too.

-fJRoberts-


10 posted on 01/20/2023 4:50:39 AM PST by A strike ("The worse, the better."-.Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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We could always to try to negotiate a peace too...

I know...crazy talk.


11 posted on 01/20/2023 4:50:57 AM PST by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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Yeah it should only take a week to train a Ukie to fly a jet, right? Ten days at the outside. Simple.

Conversion to a front line combat aircraft for a new pilot would usually take about six months to become limited combat ready. However, a more experienced pilot would take less than half that time, and someone requalifying on type after a break would only take a few weeks. If operational reasons demanded, then a much shorter course for experienced pilots learning a new type, focussed only on the relevant tactics and weapons, could be done in four to six weeks, much of which could be done on simulators.

https://www.aerosociety.com/news/ukraine-time-to-fast-track-front-line-fighter-pilot-training/

12 posted on 01/20/2023 4:51:42 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.

Where are all these experienced Ukie pilots? (Ukraine wasn’t exactly known as a world-class air power, post-USSR.) Where are all these simulators?


13 posted on 01/20/2023 4:56:44 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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The Ukrainian War is going so well that they have run out of Ukrainians.


14 posted on 01/20/2023 4:58:14 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: tlozo

On the other hand, EU countries manufacture and fly war planes. Good ones I’m told.

Why the hell can’t the EU train all these Ukie pilots and give ‘em planes to fly? Why does it ALWAYS come down to Uncle Sugar’s blood and treasure?


15 posted on 01/20/2023 5:00:11 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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Russian fighter jets are struggling in Ukraine, but Ukraine can’t beat their missiles and radars, researchers say

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-jets-missiles-can-still-outperform-ukraine-air-force-report-2022-12

While the Russian air force dominates, neither is able to operate well given the ground anti-aircraft missile defenses. Ground attack aircraft have to operate at treetop level to avoid defenses. Defense aircraft operate at high altitude and use look down, shoot down long range missiles to kill ground attack aircraft.


16 posted on 01/20/2023 5:00:25 AM PST by FarCenter
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And some EU designed planes operate from unimproved runways or highways.


17 posted on 01/20/2023 5:01:58 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: Renfrew
Give them our whole airforce. Yeah. That's the ticket.


18 posted on 01/20/2023 5:02:41 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

How does one “lease” something that belongs to their primary source of funding? Isn’t that “laundering”?


19 posted on 01/20/2023 5:04:12 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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They have a few dozen guys trained on MiG 29’s and some on SU-27’s. They will need conversion training on F-16’s. I suspect thats already going on.


20 posted on 01/20/2023 5:07:50 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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