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How the wokeness it pushes could destroy higher education
NY Post ^ | 16 Jan 2023 | Glenn H Reynolds

Posted on 01/16/2023 4:03:40 PM PST by Rummyfan

“Get woke, go broke.” It’s a phrase people coined to describe the failure of Hollywood’s recent politics-drenched efforts at blockbuster films, from which viewers stayed away in droves. But now it applies to another field: higher education.

College and graduate degrees were comparatively rare before about 1970. People could be quite successful without them, and there was little stigma attached to their absence.

That changed as the baby boomers and the GI Bill hit colleges. By the 1970s, college became an essential ticket to entry in the managerial and professional classes (and even to military promotions). Where higher ed had once been a luxury, it became a necessity to membership in the middle, and especially the upper-middle, class.

Parents struggled to live in districts with “top” public schools so they could get their kids into good colleges. Once admitted, the students often borrowed huge sums (most of which went into the colleges’ pockets) to attend. The goal was a degree from a “prestige” school, which would guarantee a good job out of college or admission to a top law, medical or other professional school and thus a secure position among the haute bourgeoisie.

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Nationwide undergraduate enrollment fell by 650,000 in a single year, spring 2021 to 2022.

1 posted on 01/16/2023 4:03:40 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

No problem. The colleges and universities are just increasing their recruitment of “international students.” Special emphasis on LGBTQ, etc.


2 posted on 01/16/2023 4:09:08 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Rummyfan
Could

No, no, no, is destroying all education, not just higher education.

3 posted on 01/16/2023 4:11:05 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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Either I’m way ahead of the curve, or these “journalists” are way, way behind.


4 posted on 01/16/2023 4:13:20 PM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: Rummyfan

College is a Crap-show. Only for a very few people would I recommend it.


5 posted on 01/16/2023 4:21:07 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: Rummyfan

Could??? How bout does


6 posted on 01/16/2023 4:27:29 PM PST by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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To: vpintheak
College is a Crap-show. Only for a very few people would I recommend it.

Yes. Only a small percentage of people know how to make use of attending college. The rest waste their time and money going to college. The focused few plan well, are ambitious and target courses that will create value for them, and target who they'll work for. The majority of college students don't plan well at all.

7 posted on 01/16/2023 4:27:47 PM PST by roadcat
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I’d say if you’re looking to go to the professions, or STEM fields, it’s a requirement.

Getting that Communications degree? Let alone a ____ Studies degree?

Yeah, not so much. Figure out a better way to spend that time/money.


8 posted on 01/16/2023 4:39:52 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: roadcat

There used to be a time when corporations would hire kids out of HS and train them. Now kids have to take on a lifetime of non-dischargeable debt to get “pre-trained” to even have a chance at getting hired. Thank you to Mike Rowe and others who are showing kids another way that circum-navigates the self-appointed communist gatekeepers to a better life.


9 posted on 01/16/2023 4:40:49 PM PST by imabadboy99
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To: Rummyfan

s The Post reported recently, some employers are asking applicants to leave the colleges they attended off their applications. Instead of the school, they are simply to list the degree. Whether it came from Harvard or Slippery Rock won’t matter anymore because the employer doesn’t want to know. Prestige degrees confer “privilege,” you know, and that’s bad for equity.


These kinds of statements by Employers are little more than virtue signaling.

1. Regardless of what they say, Employers will know pretty quickly where you went to school — as soon as they see your transcripts.
2. Likewise, consulting firms saying you don’t need a college degree is so much window dressing. If you can’t read or write properly, you’re history (and a college degree does not guarantee either). Now if you are a software developer, there are people with great skill sets who are self taught and likely know more than someone with a college degree anyway. I have seen people with computer science degrees (even grad degrees) who can’t program their way out of a paper bag. Which is why almost no one hires anymore without a skils test.
3. For the more elite schools, you have their extensive alumni networks, which most grads use to get jobs anyway.


10 posted on 01/16/2023 4:50:34 PM PST by rbg81
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To: proust

No joke. My first reaction was “it is not destroyed already?”!!!!


11 posted on 01/16/2023 4:56:10 PM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: Rummyfan

“Could,”???? Already has. I am meeting recent college grads who are too poorly educated to write an intelligible sentence or to understand that winter is cold and ice is slick.


12 posted on 01/16/2023 4:58:05 PM PST by Lion Den Dan ( )
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To: Steely Tom

They are especially fond of Chinese nationals and children of the Mideast whose parents and governments pay full tuition and then some.


13 posted on 01/16/2023 4:59:17 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Rummyfan

Our society has become incredibly hierarchical, like any type of previous royalty, and those who are associated with those types of ‘royal’ positions have become one to the most dangerous elements of our society. They delude themselves into thinking that they are elite, superior, smarter than, etc. The chosen ones. That’s why there is such a connection between politics and academics. Both are way, way, way overpopulated with those with an extreme need to be greater than others, but generally with no specific talents to warrant even an inkling of that ambition. Think Hillary Clinton.

It is much, much, much better to have a hierarchy in society based upon people’s specific individual efforts, risk taking, and talents, than it is to have an artificial hierarchy based upon artificial pedigree such as those that dominate in government and academics.


14 posted on 01/16/2023 5:00:25 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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Could ?

That titanic sank a long time ago.


15 posted on 01/16/2023 5:04:21 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: Rummyfan

Has already destroyed it two decades ago at least.


16 posted on 01/16/2023 5:05:20 PM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: imabadboy99
There used to be a time when corporations would hire kids out of HS and train them.

That's what my wife did over 53 years ago, when she was in high school. An insurance company hired her part time in an apprentice program where she got out of school early to work downtown. Got her foot in the door with training learning typing and filing. After graduating from high school she went to work full time, never attended college. After a few years, the company moved headquarters to Oklahoma and offered to move her. She declined, and easily got another job downtown with her skills. Over a few decades was making a 6-figure income by transitioning to IT, without having a college degree.

17 posted on 01/16/2023 5:12:14 PM PST by roadcat
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To: volunbeer
No joke. My first reaction was “it is not destroyed already?”!!!!

There should be a word that means "asserting that something might eventually occur, that has already occurred." If such a word exists, I'm not aware of it.

18 posted on 01/16/2023 5:12:21 PM PST by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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To: TChad
Anti-climactic?

Underwhelming, I know, but probably apt.

19 posted on 01/16/2023 5:13:31 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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Anti-climactic?

In the ballpark, but not quite there.

20 posted on 01/16/2023 5:16:11 PM PST by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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