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To: Paladin2

Some more interesting totals.

“ According to the “ History Legends “ NATO has supplied its proxies in ukraine, between the summer, and November of 2022, the following : 390 tanks, 107 multiple rocket launchers, 268 self propelled artillery, 271 howitzers, 828 armored fighting vehicles, 1373 infantry mobility vehicles, 85 radars, 60 pieces of engineering equipment, in TOTAL : 3382 pieces of military equipment. The main suppliers are : US, Poland, Chech republic, UK, and Australia. Keep in mind that the US only, up to now, has provided the ukros military gear worth of 63 billion dollars, which equals the Russian defence budget for 1 year.

Zaluzhny asked for : 300 tanks, 600 to 700 infantry fighting vehicles, and 500 hundred pieces of artillery. This ammount equals for the military gear, of those types, of UK and Germany combined... there are some German cluless comedians in this thread, who talk about 400 Leopards to be delivered by the Germans to the ukies, while their country has 266 operational tanks in total, and 107 of them active, or something like that.

If we bear in mind that the Russian military industry can produce 1.000 tanks per year, and consider that Germany cancelled its “ Great rearmament plan “ 1 month after it declared that they will start it, and the huge volume of war gear that the Russian have already destroyed, we can come to the conclusion that Demilitarization of NATO keeps on unabated.

Just to support that conclusion : US secretary of Navy, Del Toro, stated that for the next 6 months, the US government has to decide wether it will arm the US Navy, or Ukraine...

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And somehow the war cheerleaders will have us believe the Ukies are winning.


13 posted on 01/14/2023 5:10:23 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

I will go out on a limb for a guess when Ivan starts their long awaited push, Jan 20th, NATO meets in Ramstein to finalize the armored vehicles transfers to the Ukies.

Given most everything Vlad does is closely linked to the collective West’s moves against him, it would make sense. Keep in mind there has been no reports yet ( both West and non West media) about the deployment of Vlads 300,000 prior servicemen activated three months ago…and…the Ukie ground is now frozen from north to south.

General Winter highly favors Vlad. Stay tuned.


20 posted on 01/14/2023 5:19:15 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

There are 200 Leopard 2A4’s in storage in Spain alone.

Some of those are going soonish, IIRC.

Several ships from the US have recently docked in Germany and the Netherlands carrying thousands of pieces of equipment, including, I think, some or all the M1’s promised to the Poles, on which they’ve been training for six months now. That may be why the Poles are willing to part with, probably, their unupgraded 2A4’s.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-01-11/u-s-military-tanks-at-dutch-port-en-route-to-nato-frontier#:~:text=U.S.%20army%20vehicles%20including%20tanks%20are%20brought%20ashore,January%2011%2C%202023.%20REUTERS%2FPiroschka%20van%20de%20Wouw%20Reuters

And the Poles are starting to receive their Korean K2’s, first 10 were delivered last month.

Thats good backfill for the Polish Leopards.

Just those two between them, Spain and Poland, can in theory supply 400 Leopard2s.


32 posted on 01/14/2023 5:38:24 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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