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SFPD disproportionately stops Black drivers. A proposed ban could stop that
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Jan. 10, 2023 | Marvin K. White, Claire Amable

Posted on 01/10/2023 10:19:05 AM PST by artichokegrower

Many of us know the names: Sandra Bland, Daunte Wright, Philando Castile, Walter Scott, Sam DuBose. They are just a few of the hundreds of Americans across the country who have been killed by police during a traffic stop. In many of these cases, police had stopped the victim using a practice called “pretext stops” — pulling someone over for a minor traffic or equipment violation and then using that stop to conduct an unrelated speculative criminal investigation, not for the purpose of enforcing the traffic code.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: blackthugsmatter; claireamable; donutwatch; marvinwhite
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Over the last 35 years I have known three black guys that were continually getting stopped by the police. All three of them are some of the worst drivers I’ve ever seen.


21 posted on 01/10/2023 10:47:27 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Don't rush to your death.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I know what you're saying. When I think about it, do cops want to make a traffic stop, or would they rather eat a donut? Not a hard choice to make.

22 posted on 01/10/2023 10:50:21 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Lizavetta

The elephant in America’s living room.


23 posted on 01/10/2023 10:50:43 AM PST by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: thegagline

Bingo.


24 posted on 01/10/2023 10:52:25 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: artichokegrower

What came first, the criminal or the cop? Sort of chicken and egg debate.


25 posted on 01/10/2023 11:00:18 AM PST by euram
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To: artichokegrower

The thing with cops stopping black drivers is profiling.

Black people are generally low-income and low-influence and they can be stopped with impunity when a cop needs to meet a quota. The advent of body cameras and dash cameras is definitely affecting this phenomenon yet all the same it is true that cops will stop certain drivers when the only thing they’ve done is driving while black.

Here is a really awesome example where Florida cops stopped a black woman not for any traffic violation but because when they ran her plates for no good reason it came back with no violations. Which to these donut-munching retards was SUSPICIOUS!!!

Imagine that, a law-abiding black driver is SUSPICIOUS and that’s ‘reasonable suspicion’ to stop someone??? Huh???

In any case here’s the video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiUkbE_ktHs


26 posted on 01/10/2023 11:00:32 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Cronos
The Racial Profiling Myth Debunked

https://www.city-journal.org/html/racial-profiling-myth-debunked-12244.html?wallit_nosession=1

27 posted on 01/10/2023 11:05:41 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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To: Leaning Right

“...But it is the other side of the coin.”


People old enough to remember the OJ Simpson case were shocked at the jury’s verdict. At least most white people were. How could the jury come to such a wrong conclusion? A few years later, the answer came out. L.A. had to release dozens of convicted criminals and compensate them for their jail time because it was proven that LAPD routinely planted evidence to either make smaller crimes into more serious ones, or to just get the conviction.

This was apparently common knowledge in the ‘hood. Much of the physical evidence against Simpson, the bloody gloves, against was found by Mark Fuhrman when he jumped/climbed the fence in order to supposedly ‘warn’ Simpson about the murder.

I can imagine the scene in the jury room: “Yeah, the detective jumped the fence to warn Simpson of danger and just happened to find some bloody gloves, we all know that’s BS.” I’m sure there was also talk of, “The Man is trying to take down a famous black man for having a white wife”, and all the other “We’re victims!” stuff as well. Don’t agree with it, but I understand it.

This is not to say that Simpson wasn’t guilty, nor that blacks in SF don’t violate the traffic laws ‘disproportionally’, but it does explain why many blacks, especially those who live on the fringe of lawfulness, think the deck is stacked against them.


28 posted on 01/10/2023 11:08:52 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: artichokegrower

The left automatically calls it racist. Perhaps another reason is they are “driving” in such ways they catch the attention of cops because of what they are doing. Heres some possibilities. Driving cars they don’t upkeep and repair, and are driving cars without working lights or signals. Rolling through stop signs and red lights. Driving like they are in grand theft auto. Trying to outrun cop cars. Leaving accident scenes they are part of. Hit and runs.


29 posted on 01/10/2023 11:12:27 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: hanamizu

Corrupt cops don’t target just blacks. Speed traps and departments that plant evidence on people do not limit themselves to just one color/race of person to do that to.


30 posted on 01/10/2023 11:14:48 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: thegagline
Blacks disproportionately break traffic laws just as they disproportionately commit violent crimes and property crimes.

So? Do away with all three crime categories. Anything else would be rassist.

31 posted on 01/10/2023 11:19:33 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Secret Agent Man

Corrupt cops don’t target just blacks.


No, of course not. But in urban areas blacks, Hispanics and poor whites are more likely targets than the middle/upper class people who have the resources to fight back. And they are more likely to go after people dancing on the edge of legality as opposed to straight arrows.

Doesn’t make it right of course.


32 posted on 01/10/2023 11:21:40 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: thegagline

Deploy the spike chains and leave the offenders roadside with four flats and their 9s...


33 posted on 01/10/2023 11:51:48 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Secret Agent Man

Back when I was young, it cost me a couple of dollars to buy a headlight and I could do the work myself with a screwdriver.

A couple of years ago, I had to replace a headlight. Cost? Over $400!

So, yeah, poor people have trouble maintaining their cars, because it had become ridiculously expensive to maintain them.

Plus, poor people often don’t have credit cards to help them out so that they can get it done right away.

It’s not always just fecklessness, sometimes being poor is just really hard.


34 posted on 01/10/2023 12:08:26 PM PST by Chicory
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To: John Milner

You could send them to Utah to learn how to drive.


35 posted on 01/10/2023 12:28:46 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: MeganC
Here is a really awesome example where Florida cops stopped a black woman not for any traffic violation but because when they ran her plates for no good reason it came back with no violations. Which to these donut-munching retards was SUSPICIOUS!!!

Reasons why cops pull people over:

Driving too fast
Driving too slow
Driving the speed limit

36 posted on 01/10/2023 2:52:51 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

LOL!!!


37 posted on 01/10/2023 3:01:31 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: artichokegrower

FBI RELEASES 2021 MURDER OFFENDERS:
BLACKS COMMIT 60% OF ALL MURDERS.
YET ARE ONLY 13% OF US POPULATION

https://www.romancatholicimperialist.com/2022/10/fbi-releases-2021-murder-offenders.html


38 posted on 01/10/2023 3:32:26 PM PST by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: artichokegrower

If they stop breaking the traffic laws, they won’t get pulled over.


39 posted on 01/10/2023 4:28:22 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: artichokegrower

“SFPD disproportionately stops Black drivers. A proposed ban could stop that”

but wouldn’t banning black drivers be racist?


40 posted on 01/10/2023 4:40:36 PM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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