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To: Right_Wing_Madman

If you look at the maps, there is nothing of strategic value there. The value was to the Wagner mercenaries that received bonus for territory.

Wagner salaries were cut 75% for non performance


11 posted on 01/09/2023 5:20:15 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality daythis piece is )
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To: bert

See post 10


18 posted on 01/09/2023 5:39:53 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: bert
The Donbass is a collection of hills, rivers and ravines interspresed within industrial areas interconnected by many roadways and railroads, within a flat sea of Steppe. WW1 and WW2 experience demonstrates that it is natural defensive territory. AFU emplacement 8 years worth of defensive structures in the area, which tends to show the strategic importance of Bakhmut.

If Bakhmut falls, AFU supply lines from the West (across steppe that ends a few km west of Bakhmut) will be cut. This leaves Slavyansk and Kramatorsk as the single point for AFU logistics to AFU forces in the Donbass. If the AFU loses Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, they are out of the Donbass and their 8 years worth of defenses and into a maneuvering war on Steppe all the way to the Dneiper. In a maneuvering war, the AFU is screwed.

25 posted on 01/09/2023 5:50:05 AM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: bert

There is a valuable salt mine there. The Wagner Nazis are financed by mining in Africa. Russian bandits are doing what they know best: destroy, steal and mass murder.


26 posted on 01/09/2023 5:51:14 AM PST by lodi90
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