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The ‘Red Wave’ Washout: How Skewed Polls Fed a False Election Narrative
NYT ^ | 12/31/2022 | Jim Rutenberg, Ken Bensinger and Steve Eder

Posted on 12/31/2022 5:54:28 AM PST by semimojo

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To: bigdaddy45

If elections aren’t rigged then no Republican will ever be president again. The bar has been set at 81.4 million to win the general. No GOPer will ever get that many “real” votes. Only Trump has a chance of overcoming that.


101 posted on 12/31/2022 11:43:07 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Muslim thing” = “didn’t resonate with rural Pennsylvanians”


102 posted on 12/31/2022 11:43:36 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: DiogenesLamp

It doesn’t matter who the GOP nominated the result would have been the same. Living right across the border from Pa I see, talk to and know a lot of blue-collar Pennsylvanians. Almost all of the ones I know were pro-Fetterman. Why, “He’s one of us!”. Their reason again almost to a man\woman: “He dresses just like us!” Fetterman made this sale long before his Senate declaration and then victory. I never heard anyone comment about Oz being Muslim.

Repeal the 17th Amendment!
State legislators couldn’t pick worse senators!


103 posted on 12/31/2022 11:45:19 AM PST by Reily
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To: Clemenza

Ok, let me explain LOWERING marginal tax rates INCREASES tax revenue. Get it?


104 posted on 12/31/2022 11:47:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: semimojo

105 posted on 12/31/2022 11:49:00 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: DiogenesLamp
Joe Biden did *NOT* beat Barack Obama's vote total in a national election by 12 million votes.

I agree. But think if he did win with 81 million. Anyone that blieves that should find a new hobby because no Republican will ever get close to 81 million votes in the general. We might as well give up.

106 posted on 12/31/2022 11:50:21 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: DiogenesLamp

A brain dead moron, Uncle Festerman, “winning” is prima facie evidence of fraud.


107 posted on 12/31/2022 11:52:17 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Yes, but has never ever been successfully without a cut in spending - has never worked to elongate of even substantially reduce the deficit. It’s a cult belief. - Laffer is laughable.


108 posted on 12/31/2022 11:54:53 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: DiogenesLamp

When the hens view abortion as THE top issue, that sways a lot of elections.


109 posted on 12/31/2022 11:56:02 AM PST by ScottinVA
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To: central_va

“3) fraud”

To a smaller degree, yes.


110 posted on 12/31/2022 11:57:16 AM PST by ScottinVA
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To: bigdaddy45

Spot on!


111 posted on 12/31/2022 11:59:22 AM PST by ScottinVA
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To: Reily
I never heard anyone comment about Oz being Muslim.

Not sure people would openly admit to that sort of prejudice. My upbringing tells me that it would have been a huge problem for the people in my community, but not many of them would admit it publicly.

112 posted on 12/31/2022 12:00:58 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: central_va
That and the previous election demonstrates fraud is the most important factor in Pennsylvania.
113 posted on 12/31/2022 12:02:08 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Constantly Crying about cheating is that eternal lament of a loser.


114 posted on 12/31/2022 12:08:51 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45
Constantly Crying about cheating is that eternal lament of a loser.

When cheating is the problem, not addressing it simply insures that losses will continue.

I have looked at this issue constantly for the last two years, and the evidence is overwhelming that there is cheating happening in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia and Nevada.

You can talk about how pretty a hubcap should be, (candidate) but unless you fix the hole in the tire, (cheating) you aren't going anywhere.

115 posted on 12/31/2022 12:16:01 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Then why did that Republican candidate for Governor in Georgia trounce the media darling Fat Stacey? (Another loser who whines about cheating). Are the Republicans in on it too? Just how big is this conspiracy Captain Queeg?


116 posted on 12/31/2022 12:31:37 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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Then why did that Republican candidate for Governor in Georgia trounce the media darling Fat Stacey?

The previous sec state of Georgia? How did that guy win? Brad Raffensperger is how he won.

We have *VIDEO* of Georgia election corruption happening. What is it that you do not understand about a video of someone running the exact same stack of ballots through a counting machine over and over again?

Are the Republicans in on it too?

Sure smells like it. Maricopa county is supposedly mostly Republican, yet they allowed 75,000 fake ballots into the system in 2020. (According to the audit of the 2020 election in Maricopa county Arizona.)

So yeah, the Governor who initially said he would investigate vote fraud, and then refused to investigate vote fraud, won in a State in which greasy snake Raffensperger ran the election.

Oddly enough, Trump supported Republican candidates didn't win in that same state.

Somehow Republicans decided to overwhelmingly reelect Raffensperger and Kemp, but also wanted a Democrat senator.

Just how big is this conspiracy Captain Queeg?


117 posted on 12/31/2022 12:44:16 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

These people would admit it!

Their prejudice against Oz was based on class not religion. Which would be somewhat true to a greater or lesser extent for any of the possible GOP contenders.

What they might not openly admit to me was racial prejudice against the GOP black lady. However, they were already sold the on the idea they were placing own of their own in the Senate chair. I know that sounds bizarre, but Fetterman & the Pa Rats seem to understand their state electorate far better than the Pa GOP. It wouldn’t have made any difference who the GOP ran.

What’s really goofy is most of these people voted for Trump!

Repeal the 17th Amendment!
State legislatures can’t do worse!


118 posted on 12/31/2022 12:51:54 PM PST by Reily
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We even have proof. 42% of the ballots in Republican heavy areas of Maricopa county were sabotaged so they wouldn't read in the machines.

Yeah, sure they were.

There's always some conspiracy.

119 posted on 12/31/2022 1:08:39 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: semimojo

The polls were quite accurate in GA. Kemp was clearly popular. His campaign manaager ran a brilliant campaign.
Stacy’s campaign was run by California gurus who had no clue about GA.

Herschel Walker’s campaign manager was as incompetent as Stacy’s. With a James Carville strategy Walker would have won. “If your candidate has negatives get them out as soon as possible and turn them into positives.” is the James Carville advice. We see this often in campaigns. Candidates and campaign staff pretend that the negative will not come out. Should candidates and their advisors out of touch with reality be elected?


120 posted on 12/31/2022 1:12:53 PM PST by spintreebob (ki .)
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