Posted on 12/29/2022 2:55:08 PM PST by Angelino97
A delegation from Ukraine's Azov Regiment visited Israel in recent days, meeting with officials and IDF reservists and speaking about the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine.
The delegation arrived in Israel on Thursday and was led by Azov officer Ilya Samoilenko, one of the soldiers who barricaded themselves beneath the Azovstal steelworks during attempts to protect Mariupol from the Russian invasion earlier this year...
The delegation came to Israel to advocate for members of the Azov Regiment who are still being held as prisoners, to speak about the defense of the Azovstal plant in Mariupol and to counter Russian reports and statements about the regiment and the ongoing war.
The visit was initiated by the Israeli Friends of Ukraine organization and with the support of the Ukrainian Embassy in Israel and the Nadav Foundation.
On Saturday, the delegation visited Masada, where some of the last Jewish rebels held out against the Roman army in 73 CE.
"The feat of the Mariupol defenders in 2022 shocked the whole world," said the delegation. "In this fierce resistance to the Russian occupation, various peoples of the world saw parallels with various episodes of their own history, comparing the Ukrainian heroes of today with their heroes of the past. All of them had one thing in common - an uncompromising, sometimes doomed struggle for their independence. The rank of people who, in the battle for their freedom, sacrifice everything, permeates the entirety of history." ...
Anna Zharova, a founder of Israeli Friends of Ukraine, called the delegation's visit the organization's "most important project since the beginning of the war."
While the Azov Batallion, the predecessor of the Azov Regiment, was heavily associated with neo-Nazi and far-right symbolism and ideologies, the Azov Regiment today insists that it has largely purged those sentiments from the regiment.
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And once again, I'm neither pro-Putin nor pro-Zelensky. Both are oligarchical thugs. My position is simply that the U.S. should not involve itself in this war.
Wait a minute: Didn’t the pro-Russia FReepers say the Azovs were nazis?
No paywall: https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/the-azov-battalion-the-neo-nazis-of-ukraine/article65239935.ece
A great propaganda event that denies the history of the Azov Battalion from start to finish.
These two folks came into Israel and put on their show.
They didn’t meet anyone important anyway like Bibi Netanyahu or any other self-respecting Israeli leader including the leftist ones.
A lot more propaganda work is on the way.
Iran is being linked to Russia over and over again and Benjamin Netanyahu wants to take on Iran so I guess if Joe Biden is willing perhaps there will be more kumbaya with the Azov’s.
But Biden will have to pay a price to Israel like a knockout blow to Iran to get what he wants in Ukraine from Israel.
Oh boy Nextrush, you’ve just revealed yourself as one of the “Jewish bankers run the world” crowd who don’t realize that whole trope came from the NAZI propaganda book, “The Chronicles of the Elders of Zion” which has been proven to be fraudulent.
Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for December 30, 2022:
- Russia conducts what may be the largest missile strike so far during the special military operation;
- Ukraine's power grid continues to be degraded;
- Fighting continues around Bakhmut;
- Western analysts insist Russian fighting around Bakhmut is "senseless" but it suits Russia's strategy of attrition;
- Russia is also building extensive defensive structures across the line of contact;
- These lines force Ukrainian offensive troops to spend more time in well-prepared fields of fire resulting in major casualties;
- Russia appears to be settling into a protracted war of attrition while protecting its lines with these major defensive works.
They met with “officials” and IDF reservists.
All arranged by NGO.
It’s hardly proof they are not Nazis.
These two folks came into Israel and put on their show.
Israel has strict border controls, so I doubt Azov would have been admitted into Israel if they were Nazis.
My position is simply that the U.S. should not involve itself in this war.
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Which, whether you realize it or not, is a Russian propaganda line seen repeatedly here on FR from pro-Russian, pro Ukraine genocide trolls.
The USA used to be about supporting countries that were invaded: like the 7 Days War, which, if the US had not sent massive aid to Israel, the county would not exist today, and there would have been a massacre of millions of Israelis by the Arab armies
This is a parallel situation. No US aid = millions of Ukrainians murdered by Russia.
You are either on the side of a people fighting for their lives, homes families, freedom, liberty or you are on the side of a genocide-bent invader. There is no third choice.
An “Elders of Zion” Anti-Semite...LMAO
I haven’t even announced my candidacy for some public office yet.
You should save that Neoconservative Nuclear Slander for a later date.
But I think that’s the problem with the Richard Ukrainium Crowd.
The Phallic nature of nuclear bombs and missiles just arouses them to fantasies of mushroom clouds they just seem to want to turn into reality.
If they are NAZIs, they are very bad at it.
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/380483-congress-bans-arms-to-controversial-ukrainian-militia-linked-to-neo-nazis/
A little-noticed provision in the 2,232-page government spending bill passed last week bans U.S. arms from going to a controversial ultranationalist militia in Ukraine that has openly accepted neo-Nazis into its ranks.
House-passed spending bills for the past three years have included a ban on U.S. aid to Ukraine from going to the Azov Battalion, but the provision was stripped out before final passage each year.
{mosads}This year, though, the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill signed into law last week stipulates that “none of the funds made available by this act may be used to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion.”
“White supremacy and neo-Nazism are unacceptable and have no place in our world,” Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), an outspoken critic of providing lethal aid to Ukraine, said in a statement to The Hill on Tuesday. “I am very pleased that the recently passed omnibus prevents the U.S. from providing arms and training assistance to the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion fighting in Ukraine.”
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And, never mind, there were multiple reports in the Western media exposing the Azovs having a neo-Nazi ties:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right-fighters-ukraine-neo-nazis
The Azov causes particular concern due to the far right, even neo-Nazi, leanings of many of its members.
Dmitry claimed not to be a Nazi, but waxed lyrical about Adolf Hitler as a military leader, and believes the Holocaust never happened. Not everyone in the Azov battalion thinks like Dmitry, but after speaking with dozens of its fighters and embedding on several missions during the past week in and around the strategic port city of Mariupol, the Guardian found many of them to have disturbing political views, and almost all to be intent on "bringing the fight to Kiev" when the war in the east is over.
The battalion's symbol is reminiscent of the Nazi Wolfsangel, though the battalion claims it is in fact meant to be the letters N and I crossed over each other, standing for "national idea". Many of its members have links with neo-Nazi groups, and even those who laughed off the idea that they are neo-Nazis did not give the most convincing denials.
"Of course not, it's all made up, there are just a lot of people who are interested in Nordic mythology," said one fighter when asked if there were neo-Nazis in the battalion. When asked what his own political views were, however, he said "national socialist". As for the swastika tattoos on at least one man seen at the Azov base, "the swastika has nothing to do with the Nazis, it was an ancient sun symbol," he claimed.
You're advocating Bush's Neocon position. "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists."
But in the real world, there is a third choice. And in many instances, a fourth, a fifth, and often even a sixth and seventh ...
This is Europe’s problem, let them handle it. They have plenty of resources.
I was going to ping Azov Freepers but nevermind.
Just because Congress says something, doesn't make it true.
In recent years, I'm sure Congress has also passed resolutions denouncing systematic racism and white privilege. Doesn't mean those things even exist.
I want both sides to lose, so which option doe that map to?
Israel condemns the Ukrainian nationalists for staging a torchlight procession in Kiev honoring Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera on Saturday, the Israeli embassy said in a statement on Saturday.
"Israel condemns the nationalist march in honor of Stepan Bandera. Any attempt to glorify those who supported Nazi ideology defiles the memory of Holocaust victims in Ukraine. We are demanding thorough investigation of the antisemitic manifestations that took place during the march in accordance with the law adopted in Ukraine in 2021," the statement reads.
Earlier on Saturday, Kiev and a number of regions of Ukraine saw torchlight marches timed for an anniversary of Bandera’s birth. In Kiev, the demonstrators marched along the city’s main streets to a point very close to the office of President Vladimir Zelensky.
The Ukrainian police said that an estimated 3,500 people had taken part in the Bandera marches and no violations of law and order occurred.
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