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A house divided ... Better figure something out quick-like or it'll be Brandon in a walk.
1 posted on 12/29/2022 7:00:21 AM PST by AT7Saluki
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To: AT7Saluki

Yup, just like in the summer of 2020 when Trump started talking abut how awful it would be if the Democrats cheated and stole the election.

A little less talk and a little more action...


42 posted on 12/29/2022 7:42:07 AM PST by bigbob (z)
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Full article for perspective.
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Trump Suggests He’d Be Willing to Exercise the Bull Moose Option in Cryptic Truth Social Post

December 29, 2022

As the GOP heads into 2024 and it increasingly looks like Establishment GOP candidates of the Mike Pence or Mike Pompeo mold will try to challenge him in the primary, or DeSantis will challenge him from a MAGA-like position and claim he’s “Trumpism without Trump”, the question of what former President Trump will do if he doesn’t win the nomination remains.

On one hand, he could back down graciously and do his best to support whoever the GOP candidate is. But, on the other hand, that doesn’t really sound like Trump. Like any good bull in a china shop, it seems much more likely that he’d start to break things.

And such is what Trump himself suggested he would do in a Truth Social post, simply posting the link to an American Greatness article titled “The Coming Split: What should we do when a majority of Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party says we can’t have him?“. 

In the December 27th article, the author, Dan Gelernter, said:


Last week I wrote about Teddy Roosevelt and Donald Trump. My comparison wasn’t between the two men as presidents—though they had some similar personality traits—but between how the two men were treated by the Republican Party. The Republican Party of 1912 decided it would be better off renominating William Howard Taft, even though its voters would have preferred another Roosevelt term.

The resulting split ushered in Woodrow Wilson and the first academic globalists, whose bright ideas laid the groundwork for a second world war on the eve of the conclusion of the first.


Continuing, Gelernter went on to suggest that Trump should exercise the Bull Moose option if the Establishment attempts to keep him out, saying:


But, despite the obvious differences, we’re heading for a 1912-repeat, in which the Republican Party ignores its own voters. The Republican machine has no intention of letting us choose Trump again: He is not a uniparty team player. They’d rather lose an election to the Democrats, their brothers in crime, than win with Trump.

That leads us to the inevitable question: What should we do when a majority of Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party says we can’t have him? Do we knuckle under and vote for Ron DeSantis because he would be vastly better than any Democrat?

I say no, we don’t knuckle under. And I like DeSantis. I’d vote for him after Trump’s second term. But not before.

Here’s the thing: It is precisely the expedient view of “well, this person isn’t my first choice, but he’s the best available option who can win” which has allowed the uniparty to take over and ruin the country. We’re letting the Republicans get away with offering us a false dichotomy: A fake non-choice among candidates who are pre-selected for us. The Democrats did this themselves in 2016 when they stole the primary from Bernie Sanders.

You could go even further and say that the two-party system, in addition to preserving systemic stability, has prevented us from having any real say in our own government, except to the smallest extent. The Republicans and Democrats appear like the guard rails on either side of the road they’ve decided we should all be traveling on.


Trump simply posted the link to the article with no commentary, but Trump isn’t a particularly subtle person so the message seems easy to understand: Trump’s willing to go full “Bull Moose” Teddy Roosevelt and split the Republican Party if the elites try to keep him out of the White House.

Hopefully, it won’t come to that. And Trump does remain in the lead with GOP voters, even if that lead is starting to slip, particularly in the wake of the Trump NFT embarrassment. But, if it does, it seems Trump is ready to teach the Establishment a serious lesson in populist power, and that might end up being his greatest accomplishment of all.

43 posted on 12/29/2022 7:42:09 AM PST by Bratch
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Trump should reflect on the “Bull Moose” history. Teddy and the GOP Candidate, Taft, lost to the “Progressive” Woodrow Wilson.


44 posted on 12/29/2022 7:42:46 AM PST by Wuli
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DJT is reminding Ronna and Mitch of the power he wields. the problem is i don’t think either of them cares if GOP might get crushed - as long as they have their fiefdoms. we shall see.


45 posted on 12/29/2022 7:43:22 AM PST by avital2
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The MOOSE is loose!


46 posted on 12/29/2022 7:45:35 AM PST by null and void (It’s not far-right to prevent mass starvation. It’s far-left to cause mass starvation.)
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"Trump’s willing to go full “Bull Moose” Teddy Roosevelt and split the Republican Party if the elites try to keep him out of the White House."

The Republican powers-that-be are hell-bent on doing exactly that, and will not allow a Trump renomination. We have to terminate the existing Party, with prejudice.

48 posted on 12/29/2022 7:46:02 AM PST by matthew fuller (March 19, 2023- International Global Warming Appreciation Day.)
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it is theater. the chosen statist candidate will win. no one has learned the right lessons from 2020 and 2022 here it seems.


54 posted on 12/29/2022 7:51:25 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To paraphrase Ronald Reagan (though he was talking about the Democrats), I did not leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left me.

Of course, the Democrat Party is no alternative.

I was hoping that the MAGA movement would permeate the Republican Party and change it into one that I can once again support. But that does not seem to be in the cards. The RINO faction still seems to have the upper hand in the party and they will happily cross the aisle to support Democrat policies in the spirit of "unity."

This is not what I want.

I also know that starting a third party will split the GOP vote and likely hand the Democrats easy victories for the forseeable future. It's an awful predicament we are in, all because the Republican Party hated Trump and MAGA so much that they were willing to stand by and even assist the Democrats in stealing the 2020 presidential election.

There is a slight hope that a new "MAGA" type party will attract not only disenchanted Republicans like myself, but most of the Independents and a decent slice of Democrats as well. That might be enough to make this new MAGA party the dominant party but a lot of things need to go right and the longer we wait, the tougher the road gets.

55 posted on 12/29/2022 7:52:48 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,762,307 | Truth Social | 87,863,616 | Twitter | Trump Followers)
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What if they gave an election and nobody showed up to vote?


57 posted on 12/29/2022 7:55:17 AM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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A house divided ... Better figure something out quick-like or it'll be Brandon in a walk.

It's too late. We have establishment Republicans who a are responsible for Biden and the Dem majority in the Senate.

61 posted on 12/29/2022 7:57:37 AM PST by FreeReign
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If this is what it takes to destroy the GOPe, then so be it.


62 posted on 12/29/2022 7:58:50 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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A vote for Republicans or democrats is a vote for the deep s5ate. The parties are all in. There is no choice but trump.


63 posted on 12/29/2022 8:00:48 AM PST by DouglasKC
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“They’d rather lose an election to the Democrats...”

And that’s exactly what will happen. Not because the RNC didn’t choose Trump, but because the Dems will steal the election...again.

Idiots.

(*See my tagline.)


65 posted on 12/29/2022 8:03:30 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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Republican Party ignores its own voters

Back Trump or have another Biden no other options.

The media is already gearing up to stop any Republican in the arena nobody is exempt.

2024 election will decide the fate of the nation and liberty.


69 posted on 12/29/2022 8:10:12 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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Trump is spot on.

As I’ve posted here and elsewhere. Trump knows history better than 90% of the members of Congress.


72 posted on 12/29/2022 8:13:15 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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Don’t telegraph what you intend to do. Just do it…..

As others have said, Trump might be the last time voting has any chance at all….

83 posted on 12/29/2022 8:23:38 AM PST by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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The nominee will be chosen in the primaries, not by “the party” in a brokered convention.

The real question is whether Trump would go third party if, a six months or a year from now, he concludes that he’s likely to lose in the primaries against Santos or some other TBD candidate who gets on a roll.

Trump is an out of control ego monster. That’s not going to change. We can do better.


84 posted on 12/29/2022 8:23:57 AM PST by sphinx
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No worries...

When DJT announces JFK, Jr is his running mate that will change everything.

Trust the plan


86 posted on 12/29/2022 8:25:20 AM PST by xyz2
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107 posted on 12/29/2022 8:49:24 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Conservatives aren't going to tolerate illegal immigration or amnesty, neocon foreign policy or going back to voting for politicians that break their promises.

I'll take my chances with state secession and civil war before I do that.

This is situation is completely a result of Mitch McConnell and the GOP establishment sabotaging Trump while in office, being complicit in rigging the election in 2020 and undermining MAGA candidates in the last election.

Trump probably should have gone third party of 2020 as there is no chance American First conservatives will ever gain control of the GOP.

114 posted on 12/29/2022 9:09:54 AM PST by Kazan
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