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Putin says Russia will destroy US Patriot missiles in Ukraine
AFP / Insider Paper ^ | 25th Dec | AFP

Posted on 12/25/2022 2:50:50 AM PST by RandFan

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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I have no doubt that Patriot system still has the ability to operate in adverse air defense environments, with the risk of HARM and etc. The US “gold plates” everything with extended capabilities that are rarely used, but come the day...

The Ukrainians operate their S300 and other systems that way.

This Patriot battery is going to be deployed within the existing Ukrainian air defense system. If the RuAF wanted to try to swamp it they would also have to deal with all the other SAM assets in range. The Russians havent managed to swamp all that so far.


121 posted on 12/25/2022 7:25:09 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: firebrand

On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will have achieved their heart’s desire at last. The White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H.L. Mencken


122 posted on 12/25/2022 7:25:52 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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To: caww

putin said he would NOT invade Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V-zKaGCR8g


123 posted on 12/25/2022 7:26:48 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: USA-FRANCE

“When America was attacked on 911, the entire NATO helped the USA with billions in military aid and more, and EU troops.”

The first world leader to call Bush was Putin. And it wasn’t just thoughts and prayers. He offered immediate use of Russian airbases as we went after the terrorist base in Afghanistan. No contracts, no rent, no lawyers,… Just show up and start operations. Then he let us have the northern supply route using Russian rail for supplies when out Pakistani allies balked.
But that doesn’t fit your narrative.


124 posted on 12/25/2022 7:27:15 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

You are not convincing me, or anyone, that this isn’t all bullish-t.

Pootie Toot trolls, like yourself, can’t be convinced, only be paid.


125 posted on 12/25/2022 7:29:17 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RandFan

Saw a report that said it would take months to train the Ukrainians how to properly use the system. Which means Putin has plenty of time to take it out. I wonder if US soldiers will be there at the time when Putin strikes? Just the sacrificial opportunity Biden is hoping for. Sickening.


126 posted on 12/25/2022 7:30:17 AM PST by Marko413
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To: RandFan

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/feverishly-racing-toward-our-own-destruction?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1147


127 posted on 12/25/2022 7:33:41 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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To: Williams

You remember the COVID Pfascist American good times differently than some Americans

Some saw Americans like Cuomo as more of an enemy than any foreign power..

Some saw past the ‘Russia Russia Russia collusion hoax’ that American politicians and their mouthpieces told us to be worried about.

Some saw past the ‘Ukraine terrible phone call’ hoax that the same American politicians and their mouthpieces told us to be worried about.

Some saw past the ‘safe and effective’ lie that American pfascists, and the same American politicians and their mouthpieces spouted.

Some see past the ‘free and fair election’ lie that the same American politicians and their mouthpieces spout.

Some Americans are conditioned to not believe in the ‘ Russia Russia Russia is bad’ and ‘Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine is good’ lie that the exact same American politicians and their mouthpieces, spout..

Some Americans see the American politicians and their mouthpieces and their Fedzilla and State muscle as more of an enemy than any foreign power.

The Domestic powers and principalities have earned the mistrust and the lack of benefit of any doubts.

So have their mouthpieces and their useful idiots..


128 posted on 12/25/2022 7:35:07 AM PST by delchiante
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To: RandFan

Chiming in here...

Hawk, Patriot, S400 etc come in a battle configuration of 3 batteries. For example a Patriot battery may have 8 or more missiles depending upon the type ordinance.

One battery better be concealed well and shoot and scoot quickly.

5.56mm


129 posted on 12/25/2022 7:35:07 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go)
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To: Yossarian

That might be because Zelenshy is backed by Democrats and neocons. Conservatives are a little leery of getting into a hot war with a nuclear armed Russia.

Conservatives know that our real enemy is the CCP in China and also know that we will need Russia’s help in a face off with China. All this stupid neocon war did was push Russia into the arms of the CCP. Only a geopolitical IDIOT would deliberately do that. The USA has zero interest in the Ukraine, none, zip, zero. Yeah sorry for the people but not dog, not our fight. Only short sighted fools back our involvement in the Ukraine. The catch 22 Yossarian wouldn’t.


130 posted on 12/25/2022 7:36:01 AM PST by jpsb
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To: BobL

Then you haven’t been paying attention over the years. You are just another paid Bolshevik troll that supports the eleven-time-zone country’s efforts to brutalize the one-time-zone country. Fortunately Putin and his henchmen have been humiliated before the world by freedom-loving Ukrainians fighting with the Spirit of ‘76.


131 posted on 12/25/2022 7:37:56 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: caww
Look how Russia keeps moving their country closer to NATO ! /S


132 posted on 12/25/2022 7:38:29 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: RandFan

https://sonar21.com/has-natos-strategy-to-bleed-russia-backfired/


133 posted on 12/25/2022 7:38:49 AM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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To: Williams

They are Russian propagandists or ignorant fools, or both.


134 posted on 12/25/2022 7:41:18 AM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Monterrosa-24; Admin Moderator

” You are just another paid Bolshevik troll “

Please avoid the character attacks, as you have NO CLUE as to my background, and those attacks are AGAINST THE RULES here.


135 posted on 12/25/2022 7:45:51 AM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

I have more than a few clues.


136 posted on 12/25/2022 7:47:54 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: DesertRhino

I have to agree with you.
In those days I was a pro Putin guy. He did a lot of good things for his country and he seemed to be be pro Europe and Pro USA - just like Jeltsin was.
There was even a discussion within NATO to ask Russia to maybe even join to at the very least be a involved as a partner.

But, something wrong happened a few years ago when Putin decided to invade Crimea. I didn’t like it, but decided to forget about it keeping the hope that Putin still was a good guy.

After that, he invaded the Donbas... At that moment I started to understand I started to lose hope about Putins good intentions.

Then came came the attempted invasion of whole ok Ukraine when Moscow sent a multiples miles long tank convoy against Ukraines capital Kiev.
That was too much for me to handle. Putin lust my trust. I can see clearly now in Russias ambitions.

Ukraine is just a small step for Russia. If you read Aleksandr Dugin’s (Putins political and philosophical mentor) plan for the USA and Europe... its terrifying for the west. Putin is following in a linear precise way Dugins “new world orde”r plan. It’s the end of the west if we let it continue.


137 posted on 12/25/2022 7:48:36 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

NATO stands for North Atlantic not South Pacific. We are allied to Australia via the ANZUS treaty (Australia, New Zealand, United States)


138 posted on 12/25/2022 7:49:53 AM PST by jpsb
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To: caww
Look how Russia keeps moving their country closer to NATO ! /S

NATO is not going to invade nuclear Russia, which is why Putin said Finland and Sweden joining NATO was not a problem.


139 posted on 12/25/2022 7:50:48 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: USA-FRANCE

sorry for the typos was typing on my phone...


140 posted on 12/25/2022 7:51:51 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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