Posted on 12/23/2022 5:23:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie
45th President Donald Trump says the proposed “Electoral Count Reform Act” proves that he and other constitutional lawyers were correct in their legal opinion regarding the Vice President’s role in certifying presidential elections.
According to constitutional attorneys, whose analysis of the Electoral Count Act of 1887 was pointed to by the former president in the aftermath of the controversial 2020 Presidential Election, the Vice President has the authority to reject a state’s slate of electoral votes in the event that voter fraud, or other election-related discrepancies delegitimize the election results.
In such an event, according to the legal opinion, the Vice President is obligated on December 23 to instruct these states to “fix” their election problems and take specific measures to ensure the validity of the results before sending their slate of electoral votes to Congress to be certified on January 6.
WATCH: Mike Pence sends letter to Congress ahead of joint session.
“It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not.” pic.twitter.com/VcBszZwAvC
— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) January 6, 2021
If no action is taken on December 23 to ensure election integrity, constitutional attorneys have stated, the Vice President would then be required to disregard electors from affected states during the January 6 joint session of Congress — potentially triggering a contingent election should neither candidate receive the required 270 electoral votes.
Critics of the theory have claimed that the constitutional interpretation would seemingly give the Vice President unilateral authority to determine the outcome of a presidential election — a power that the official does not actually possess.
Amid the former President’s claims that the November 2020 election was rife with widespread voter fraud, corruption, and other election discrepancies that affected the outcome of the race in several swing states, pressure was put on former Vice President Mike Pence to send a demand letter to Secretaries of the contested states on December 23 requiring that they address purported evidence of election fraud.
Pence ultimately never acted on December 23, and subsequently rejected any notion that he had the power to reject fraudulent slates of electors on January 6. Members of both Houses concurred with the Vice President, and officially certified Brain-Dead Biden as the winner of the 2020 presidential election — much to the dismay of President Trump and his supporters.
“TRUMP IS WRONG”: Former VP Mike Pence forcefully rejected notions that he should have overturned presidential election results on January 6, 2021.
“I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone.” pic.twitter.com/LmjCYZIsA3
— NEWSMAX (@NEWSMAX) February 4, 2022
Despite permanent Washington’s fervent claims that the Vice President has no such authority to ensure the integrity of a presidential election or reject fraudulent slates of electoral votes, a bipartisan group of senators in July proposed legislation to reform 1887 law to “clarify” it’s “ambiguous” language regarding the Vice President’s role.
According to President Trump, Washington’s move to change the law is proof that he and other constitutional experts were correct in their analysis.
“I don’t care whether they change The Electoral Count Act or not, probably better to leave it the way it is so that it can be adjusted in case of Fraud, but what I don’t like are the lies and ‘disinformation,’ put out by the Democrats and RINOS,” the former president wrote in a series of Truth Social posts on Tuesday.
Trump White House Archived / Flickr
“They said the Vice President has ‘absolutely no choice,’ it was carved in ‘steel,’ but if he has no choice, why are they changing the law saying he has no choice?” he added.
“Simply put, it is because the Vice President did have a choice, and looking back at it now, the 2020 Voting Fraud was far greater than anyone thought possible, with even our Government, through the disgraced FBI, changing the results of the Election by millions and millions of votes,” President Trump said.
Upon learning that Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) recently announced his support for the Electoral Count Reform Act, President Trump stated, “In other words, John Eastman and others were correct in stating that the Vice President of the United States had the right to do what should have been done.”
President Trump added that if his critics were truly correct in claiming that the Vice President had no such authority, they wouldn’t be attempting to change the 1887 law.
“The only reason this change is being promulgated is to reform The Electoral Count Act so that the VP cannot do what they powerfully said he couldn’t do, but if it couldn’t be done, why are they making this law change? The whole thing is one big Scam!” Trump wrote.
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2020 was an unusual election due to the Covid-19 mess.
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Sure was.... and deliberately so since it ushered in a whole new range of options for DemRat electoral fraud that didn’t exist previously.
The reason the DS/democrats staged J6 was because they feared Trump was going to win when the process played out.
WHEN WE HAVE FAIR ELECTIIONS
No, he couldn’t have. Zero power, zero role, zero authority to do so for the Vice President. Also no mechanism existed nor exists to have done so. Even if theoretically it did, all it would have taken was an appeal of the ruling of the chair and you are back to square one.
Trump, and those who continue to say the same, only embarrass themselves. All you have to do is read the Constitution, law, and Congressional rules governing the same.
It is just simply false to state otherwise. It is not a matter that is even debatable, yet people continue to still spew this nonsense. Embarrassing.
Why? He's gotten himself a pretty good grift going off of it.
Right, this confirms that Pence is a traitor who didn’t perform his constitutional duty to investigate the massive voting fraud in the 2020 Big Steal. What an ‘effing weasel he is.
This country will cease to exist before anyone gets off their fat asses to do anything.
Poland seems to be about to send troops into Ukraine and fight the Russians.
That is a NATO nation in direct conflict in this war. The result will not be what the retards in DC think it will be.
Ping
Pence resigning would have made no difference. If there’s no VP on hand to preside, then, as Reily pointed out, the President Pro Tem of the Senate takes over.
This happened in 1969. VP Humphrey had probably expected to preside, but he was dispatched to Norway to represent the U.S. at the funeral of Trygve Lie. In his absence, the President Pro Tem (Senator Richard Russell) presided. Link to newspaper story: https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BvsNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=x3sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3226,4398264
Also, before the ratification of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment in 1967, there was no provision for filling a vacancy in the office of VP. Thus, there was no VP whenever the President or VP had died in office. This happened most recently on January 6, 1965.
Would a Pence resignation have “gummed up the works,” as freepersup suggests? No. It would have been purely routine – the President Pro Tem would have stepped in, as had happened in 1969 and several prior elections with no VP.
Then Pence’s FINGERPRINTS wouldn’t have been on the outcome and he could at least maintain some semblance of dignity, and innocence- in the STEAL!
Which is another point altogether.
Powerful sauce. Thread contributors... what say yee?
It’s hardly a dead horse if it affects future elections.
Don’t forget Josh Hawley’s count of all the challenged election results in the past, including two on the federal level.
Remove any chance of opposition and it is no longer a certification process, it’s just a ritual. Why even bother with it anymore?
Why? I mean if the State Legislatures who have the enumerated constitutional authority to determine their state’s elections don’t have the backbone to stand up to fraud .... how is it fair to place the burden entirely on Pence.
Really surprised Trump didn’t see this pukes true colors before he took him on as VP. Like many in is administration that was infiltrated by the enemy
Exactly!
Good history lesson.
If Pence resigned would not Nancy Pelosi take his place?
Check
Trump’s view is logical.
If, as the laws were on Jan 6, Pence could not hold up the electoral count finale, then no new law was needed, otherwise why did they have to change the law.
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