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To: jimwatx
You have a view -- an accusation, really -- that the US "intentionally fomented" the Russian invasion of Ukraine in order to shut down Nordstream 2. Just how did we do that? By helping Ukraine to defend itself? Or covertly whispering in Putin's ear to go ahead, do it?

That is like blaming self defense classes for injuries suffered by a rape victim, and the rape itself on a women's clothing store for selling too revealing an outfit, and the rapist as prompted by the promiscuity of hip hop songs. Of course, that overlooks the point that the proximate cause of a rape is a rapist. And the sole proximate cause of Ukraine's suffering is the invasion by Russia.

192 posted on 12/19/2022 7:12:45 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

This has been in the works since 20014 when we fomented the coup against a democratically elected government and essentially installed a bunch of puppet politicians there to do our bidding. These puppet politicians began harassing ethnic Russian speakers and their culture eventually causing the majority in the Donbas to seek separation. You know the rest. Ukraine bombed the civilian population in the Donbas killing 14,000, eventually causing Russia to intercede and protect them. This was a carefully orchestrated plan that had been in the works for some time. Hillary was supposed to lead it when she was expected to win in 2016, but Trump’s win delayed matters until they could steal the next election and put their boy Biden in there.


193 posted on 12/19/2022 7:31:45 PM PST by jimwatx
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