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Putin's War
The New York Times ^ | December 16, 2022 | By Michael Schwirtz, Anton Troianovski, Yousur Al-Hlou, Masha Froliak, Adam Entous and Thomas Gibbon

Posted on 12/18/2022 6:00:35 AM PST by Timber Rattler

Fumbling blindly through cratered farms, the troops from Russia’s 155th Naval Infantry Brigade had no maps, medical kits or working walkie-talkies, they said. Just a few weeks earlier, they had been factory workers and truck drivers, watching an endless showcase of supposed Russian military victories at home on state television before being drafted in September. One medic was a former barista who had never had any medical training.

Now, they were piled onto the tops of overcrowded armored vehicles, lumbering through fallow autumn fields with Kalashnikov rifles from half a century ago and virtually nothing to eat, they said. Russia had been at war most of the year, yet its army seemed less prepared than ever. In interviews, members of the brigade said some of them had barely fired a gun before and described having almost no bullets anyway, let alone air cover or artillery. But it didn’t frighten them too much, they said. They would never see combat, their commanders had promised.

Only when the shells began crashing around them, ripping their comrades to pieces, did they realize how badly they had been duped.

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In interviews, Putin associates said he spiraled into self-aggrandizement and anti-Western zeal, leading him to make the fateful decision to invade Ukraine in near total isolation, without consulting experts who saw the war as pure folly. Aides and hangers-on fueled his many grudges and suspicions, a feedback loop that one former confidant likened to the radicalizing effect of a social-media algorithm. Even some of the president’s closest advisers were left in the dark until the tanks began to move. As another longtime confidant put it, “Putin decided that his own thinking would be enough.”…

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Massive article on how badly Comrade Putin misjudged Ukraine, NATO, and Russia's armed forces, and screwed up in grand historical fashion.
1 posted on 12/18/2022 6:00:35 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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2 posted on 12/18/2022 6:03:22 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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... lumbering through fallow autumn fields with Kalashnikov rifles from half a century ago

AK-47: Designed by Kalashnikov in 1947


3 posted on 12/18/2022 6:05:13 AM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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You can switch bolts on a Vietnam M-16 and a current-issue M-4.

Same rifle, designed by Eugene Stoner not long after the Kalashnikov.


4 posted on 12/18/2022 6:08:28 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Massive article on how badly Comrade Putin misjudged Ukraine, NATO, and Russia's armed forces, and screwed up in grand historical fashion.

But... Why would I believe anything from the New York Times?

5 posted on 12/18/2022 6:10:40 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Timber Rattler

Europeans know who destroyed those gas pipelines and eventually they’re going to start saying it out loud.

Fake news works until it doesn’t.


6 posted on 12/18/2022 6:15:25 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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NYT massive bs alert.

Keep that money flowing, winning !

7 posted on 12/18/2022 6:16:10 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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Do you really believe the NY times? If they aren’t honest with us then they sure are lying about Putin. Propaganda is propaganda. They are trying to demoralize him.It may not be as bad as they say.


8 posted on 12/18/2022 6:17:39 AM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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It probably meant rifles warehoused since the Vietnam era, remember the rusty, badly stored old rifles that we have seen being issued.


9 posted on 12/18/2022 6:18:00 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Is this the same NYT that dismissed hunter’s laptop for over 2 years?


10 posted on 12/18/2022 6:21:16 AM PST by Leep (Hillary will NEVER be president! 😁)
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But... Why would I believe anything from the New York Times?

Well, would you believe russian propagandists on russian state tv who say things aren't going well in Ukraine?

https://youtu.be/TEiFX4tIlw4

11 posted on 12/18/2022 6:24:55 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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More realistically, the U.S. war. If we had not been heavily involved since 2014 and even more so now, we wouldn’t all be in this position. And no one asks themselves why we care SO much about this, when we didn’t care this much when they invaded with greater force at any point over the last 75 years. Why is the Ukraine THE place we all risk everything for.


12 posted on 12/18/2022 6:43:15 AM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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“Keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”

All the goodwill from the Marshall Plan has been squandered.


13 posted on 12/18/2022 6:52:36 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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the part about making the invasion decision alone is far too believable ... and disturbing

and it seems like the Kremlin’s “press releases from the President” are actually in 2 distinct, different camps ... those that tow the hard-core Putin line (NATO is a US-led dictatorship, Russia is about to use nukes, etc.), and then a second, more-sane group (Russia wants to work with the US, nukes would only be a last-resort thing, etc.)

we’ve seen both of these groups go back-and-forth several times in the last 4 months ... there would seem to be some sort of internal argument going on in Russia ...


14 posted on 12/18/2022 7:02:04 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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Story has so many authors it has to be true. /sarc
15 posted on 12/18/2022 7:08:43 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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https://t.me/i20028843

💥💥💥OK Commander Yug Kovalchuk said the Armed Forces of Ukraine are experiencing a shortage of shells for artillery. On the eastern front the situation is even more difficult for the Ukrainian army, where the ratio is 1 to 6, in Artemovsk it is 1 to 10, and there is no way to even the situation. The saturation of the front does not allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to use tactics with light mobile groups💥💥💥


16 posted on 12/18/2022 7:38:53 AM PST by Cathi
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11551031/Russia-sends-opera-singers-actors-circus-performers-Ukraine-line-boost-morale.html


17 posted on 12/18/2022 7:51:13 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Timber Rattler; PIF; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Widget Jr; dennisw; SpeedyInTexas; marcusmaximus; BeauBo; ..

Unfortunately the NYT link does not allow one to read this “massive article” unless one signs up in some manner. Can anyone post a URL that will bypass this procedure? I would love to read the article but my computer non-skills make it hard/impossible for me to do so with the link available above.


18 posted on 12/18/2022 7:55:45 AM PST by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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full article

https://archive.vn/qqOiV


19 posted on 12/18/2022 8:38:19 AM PST by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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Just like the Russo-Japanese War.


20 posted on 12/18/2022 8:50:29 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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