[BobL]

“I have no objection whatever to Russia bleeding for it’s attempts to expand westward”

You may want to compare Russia’s recent attempt to ‘expand westward’ to the Neocon hell-bent expansion of NATO Eastward, DESPITE promises not to decades ago.

[canuck_conservative]

Look Bobby, Russia expands westward only by violent warmongering, causing misery, death and destruction in the process

NATO “expanded” solely thru voluntary membership - no misery, no lives were lost, and no destruction occurred

** can you understand that important difference?

[lump in the melting pot]

First off, NATO accepts petitions to join, and does not “expand” by rolling tanks into new territory. Independent countries (like Finland and Sweden, most recently) clamor to join NATO in order to secure some protection from russian aggression.

Second, what promises? Can you please point to a signed treaty that says NATO will never include additional European countries? Because I can point to a treaty, signed by russia, that says russia will respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and borders. Which it obviously didn’t...

[Widget Jr]

NATO never promise not to expand into Eastern Europe.

During the German reunification, NATO promised not to expand into East Germany. That promise was kept. To this day there are no NATO bases in the former East Germany. This was before Russia collapsed, not after.

Gorbachev himself said as much, Did NATO Promise Not to Enlarge? Gorbachev Says “No”.