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Since the state legislature is the one who funds and sets up the state courts, this could go either way.
1 posted on 12/13/2022 4:08:58 AM PST by Eleutheria5
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Districting should not allowed, imo.
It should be tied to counties or something where it can’t be manipulated by politiicians.


2 posted on 12/13/2022 4:10:36 AM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: Eleutheria5

in my ny area...they created 5 heavily weighted black districts...same as 5 dem districts...


6 posted on 12/13/2022 4:41:02 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Eleutheria5

“The U.S. Constitution’s Elections Clause is clear that it’s the state legislatures...”

Very clear, completely unambiguous statement in the Constitution so we will have to wait and see if the Supreme Court terminates the Constitution.


8 posted on 12/13/2022 4:51:39 AM PST by odawg
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To: Eleutheria5

Its only a concern in red states.

Mi and NY gerrymandered their own safe districts and were not challenged. NC goes thru this crap every single time for the last 2 census cycles.


9 posted on 12/13/2022 4:52:02 AM PST by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: Eleutheria5

I always figured gerrymamdering is a good way to slow down the idiocy of politicians. It makes the House of Representative more dependent on State Legislatures which I believe to be a good thing.

Unlike those in Washington who favor campaign finance control, which generally would favor those in office. It’s more difficult to control State Legislatures. Because A. there are far more of them. B. They represent fewer people, so knowing them personally is much more likely.

The more local the politics the better.

The reasons are similar to those for the repeal of the 17th amendment.

Stick to the original Constitution: let the state legislators draw the congressional maps without interference of the state courts or governaors/administrations.

Let the state legislators choose the U.S. Senators.


11 posted on 12/13/2022 5:00:43 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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(((YAWN))) I don’t think this Supreme Court crap matters anymore. The RATS ALWAYS win.


13 posted on 12/13/2022 5:21:16 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Amerika! The whole world is watching and laughing their asses off. )
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To: Eleutheria5

1. The Constitution requires that voters for Representatives shall be the same as for the lower house of the state legislature. (At the time it was thought there might be different qualifications for voting in the lower versus the upper house.)

2. The Constitution gives the Congress the power to set the times, manner and place of voting for Representatives and Senators. (Within any such stipulations, state legislatures can add additional rules.)

3. The equal rights amendment (#14) has been construed so that Congressional Districts are roughly of equal population.

4. The voting rights amendment (#15) has been construed so that lines could be drawn so as to create majority-minority districts where compactness and communities of interest might dictate otherwise.

5. As to districts, these were mandated by Congress by law (in 1842), with state legislatures delegated the power to draw the lines. There is nothing in the Constitution mandating single-member districts. In fact, several states had previously elected Representatives at large. The 1842 law requires districts to be contiguous. (Sometimes, this merely means connecting parts of a district by running lines along the median strip of highways.)

6. A Congressional law does not per se overrule state constitutional provisions mandating compactness or communities of interest or other anti-gerrymandering provisions (well, unless the Congress in its wisdom chooses to void such state laws as it did in the Voting Rights Act of 1965). So, state courts (as well as federal) have a role to play.

7. I’m sorry, but there’s no easy answer to this thing. We’re going to have to fight tooth and nail for each and every elective office, from school board to the state supreme court, and furthermore to raise up persons willing to serve in appointive office. Ours must be a mass, grassroots effort, and one that continues from one election to the next.

Let us pledge, as the English did, Rule America, America rule the waves. We will never, never, never be slaves!


14 posted on 12/13/2022 5:25:34 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Eleutheria5

They want to……get this…..read the plain words of the constitution.

WOW! What an obscure and radical “theory”!

The LEGISLATURE makes elections laws like it makes all other laws.


24 posted on 12/13/2022 5:51:00 AM PST by FLT-bird
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As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.

Globally organized crime, front-ending itself in the US with corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties, has no intention of surrendering state powers that the unconstitutionally big federal government has stolen, and continues to steal from the states, back to the states.

But more specifically, the ongoing fight for control of DC is all about who controls unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional, Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

That's why "street fighter" Trump 47 needs to finish draining the swamp, which hopefully also means working with states to surrender stolen state powers back to the states.


35 posted on 12/13/2022 8:13:11 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Eleutheria5

Make the law to say that every election district may have no more than 6 sides, with natural boundaries like rivers counting as 1 side.

Poof! Redistricting issues go away.


40 posted on 12/13/2022 7:41:12 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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