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‘Major War’ Between Russia and West Could Break Out over Ukraine, Warns NATO Chief
Breitbart ^ | 10 Dec 2022 | KURT ZINDULKA

Posted on 12/11/2022 6:55:36 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Tabusocial

There’s a big difference between any Democrat and a neocon

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Hillary voted for every neocon war. The war industry controls both parties.


41 posted on 12/11/2022 8:05:41 PM PST by TTFX
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To: Tabusocial

You’re using neocon like the left uses nazis, just to label anything they don’t like.

A neocon, has to be, by definition, a conservative in some way.

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Most neocons started as Democrats. They have no party loyalty. They moved to the Republican Party when they realized it would be useful.


42 posted on 12/11/2022 8:09:01 PM PST by TTFX
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To: Tabusocial

No, their donors are neocons and they control them.


44 posted on 12/11/2022 8:13:50 PM PST by TTFX
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"‘Major War’ Between Russia and West Could Break Out over Ukraine, Warns NATO Chief"

Yawn. Russia is floundering so badly in Ukraine it dare not dream of messing with Nato. Looks like some defense contractors need some business. Looks like some govt officials need to justify their budgets.
45 posted on 12/11/2022 8:16:23 PM PST by anthropocene_x
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To: DesertRhino

First—What if NATO attacks Russia first>? Would aticle Five go into effect? The two rockets in Poland should tell the story—Did Nato go to war with Ukraine, who fired the rockets? No!
Second—what if some states want to fight (Poland) and other states do not? Is there still a war?
Third-—What if other States Join in the fight? (Like Iran?) What if the real superpower weighs in—CHINA. They can lose a Million Men and not blink—No anti war marches in Shanghai.
Forth—What if popular uprisings rack NATO Nations—even the USA? What if they go full commie—Like Maoist Communism where all the rich are killed.


47 posted on 12/11/2022 8:18:05 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

touche!


48 posted on 12/11/2022 8:19:17 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: linMcHlp

Boots on the ground? No, of course not. Advisers to train in the use of weapons?! Of course. Yes!


49 posted on 12/11/2022 8:24:27 PM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: bagster

We’ve had VegPres nuclear saber rattling, promising regime change in Moscow and directly killing thousands of Russians with our hundred billion a year proxy war and this dip$hit thinks something could go wrong? What a paranoid. What could possibly go wrong?


50 posted on 12/11/2022 8:31:33 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“‘Major War’ Between Russia and West Could Break Out over Ukraine, Warns NATO Chief”

Yea, but the alternative is FAR WORSE - and that alternative would be Russia and most of the non-Western world still using carbon fuels and eating meat.

We must stop Russia, or else how can we save the planet???


51 posted on 12/11/2022 8:40:53 PM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 19 degrees)
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To: Tabusocial

“Neocons don’t even exist anymore and haven’t in a long time.”

Link please.


52 posted on 12/11/2022 8:43:12 PM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 19 degrees)
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To: Saintgermain

Why haven’t the gay diplomats suck-seeded at keeping the peace? Has any leftist calculated the carbon footprint and toxic environmental pollution of the violent path that NATO has chosen? Shouldn’t the new rainbow military be replacing the lead in bullets with GMO-free marijuana seeds and using solar power?


53 posted on 12/11/2022 8:43:14 PM PST by Reeses
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To: jimwatx

He’s just spamming at this point - he knows full-well that the Neocons are running EVERYTHING and he’s trying deflect away from that.


54 posted on 12/11/2022 8:45:55 PM PST by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 19 degrees)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If this war in the Ukraine stays conventional and the West continues to supply the arms needed, Russia loses. If it goes nuclear all lose. The real question is if Russia is losing in conventional warfare will it go nuclear?

Think tanks both left and right thought out nuclear conflict in Europe that started as conventional warfare between NATO and the Warsaw pact. Oddly both arrived at the same conclusion. The losing side in conventional warfare would go to tactical nukes as would the winning side. Both think tanks then said it would then lead to thermonuclear intercontinental war.

Armageddon. One must make wise decisions.


56 posted on 12/11/2022 8:49:38 PM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: allendale

“Russia does not have the conventional strength or capability to fight Poland.”

Put the crack pipe down!

Russia just did a 300K mobilization and can double and triple those numbers.

As of 2022, Poland has 150,000 active duty personnel and a 32,000 Territorial Defense Force.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces)

And the other numbers for NATO...

Canada, based upon 2021 numbers: Approx. 68K active and 27K Reserve.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Armed_Forces

British, as of 2022, the British Army comprises 79,380 regular full-time personnel, 4,090 Gurkhas, and 28,330 volunteer reserve personnel. (https://www.army.mod.uk/)

As of January 2022, the German Army had a strength of 62,766 soldiers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Army)

As of 2020, the French Army employed 118,600 personnel (including the Foreign Legion and the Paris Fire Brigade). In addition, the reserve element of the French Army consisted of 22,750 personnel.

And the US, size matters?

It just got out of a Saigon-like disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan after spending a couple TRILLION and 19.5 years in Afghanistan fighting sheep and goat herders equipped with AK47s and rocket propelled grenade launchers.....

Furthermore, all of NATO is deindustrialized to the point that its takes arms manufacturers/contractors to pump out/produce 20K artillery shells A MONTH, an amount that Russia is using A DAY in Ukraine.

Man, don’t get me started.

The US/UK/NATO better seriously think twice before jumping shark.


57 posted on 12/11/2022 8:52:17 PM PST by cranked
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To: Tabusocial

“I know this is a ridiculous question with your types, but if Russia is so unbelievably powerful why barely even hold ground on the tiny bit they got?”

“Your types”

Where are your evidences and proofs to counter anything that I just said was misleading, incorrect, etc instead of asking some armchair general nonsensical question concerning land/territory held.

This is not a game of RISK or some other BS where taking territory is a measurement of success or winning.

IF I take no territory and yet destroy my enemies ability to hold/take said territory my enemy does have, is that a win/success or am I losing?


59 posted on 12/11/2022 9:00:30 PM PST by cranked
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The real reason the U.S. must begin World War III directly against Russia is Russia just outlawed LGBTQ+

That was the last straw.


60 posted on 12/11/2022 9:01:32 PM PST by Gnome1949
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