Posted on 12/11/2022 7:27:44 AM PST by Widget Jr
Money goes to Ukraine, then a portion comes back to the Dimrat party. Our southern border is left wide open for money from the cartels that go to the dimrats. Hell of a fund raising plan. And the dims get millions or new voters insuring that they don’t have to bother with that pesky campaigning. They can just announce, run from their basements and win every time.
"Neither the Correctiv publication nor the editors of the Media Detector could find Melnyk's interview with the Ukraine-24 channel of July 5, where he stated this. Also, no other sources contain such a statement by Melnyk. The article in the German edition is, in fact, a literal translation of the news of the Russian media that was massively distributed on July 6. It was in them that Melnyk's statement was quoted and noted that he told the Ukraine-24 channel about this, and there is no link to the interview in both Russian and German media."You will not find Melnyk'x interview on Ukraine 24 where he said this because it is made up. It never happened. Russia state news and propaganda outlets are really good at creating confirmation biases certain audiences want to hear, then disseminating and repeating it across multiple channels.
The major US news outlets serve the status quo above informing the public. That does not mean any alternative or foreign press is automatically telling the truth. Russian state news exists to promote what the Kremlin wants people to hear. As bad as Western news is, Russian state media and propganda is always worse.
Chin, just because you say that they are unrelated issues doesn't make it so. The Biden administration is all about destabilization and making money off the disaster. It is what he's doing both here in abroad for his ChiCom masters.
When the Russians roll after the ground freezes your I will see the east of the Ukraine annexed to Russia and the middle of the Ukraine turned into a no man's land buffer zone and your idiot leader Biden will not have a clue. Tick tock.
A little reality about US aid to Ukraine, amid the hyperbolic hysteria. Written by who, a building full of liberal, globalists.
Have you seen who works for the Hudson Institute? Who the experts are? https://www.hudson.org/experts
Any organization that employs HR McMaster and Bill Barr, immediately renders itself as propagandist TRASH.
If you posted this because you think there’s some merit to it and believe it, I hate to be indelicate, but you need to sit down with somebody.
Myth 1: There is not enough oversight of US aid to Ukraine.....There has likely never been more accountability or transparency measures in place for US foreign assistance than what is available for Ukraine aid ..... why do we have US troops on the ground trying to get accountability?
Myth 2: We have written more than $66 billion worth of “blank checks” for Ukraine. U.S. Will Have Spent $100 Billion on Ukraine this Year
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-will-have-spent-100b-ukraine-this-year/5799213
My source is not Fox and Friends. My source is my own years of military experience and knowing what it takes to properly maintain equipment, coupled with the Russians own statements about the size and organization of their military. The numbers simply don't add up to anyone who knows anything about supply, logistics, and maintenance.
I have no idea if Fox and Friends, or anyone on FoxNew period, has ever made that point because I don't have cable and don't watch FoxNews. But I do have a fairly extensive network of friends with military and intelligence experience who look at the numbers and reach the same conclusions.
There our actual photos, posted by the Russians themselves, of tanks and APC's that were supposed supposedly in reserve. They were being stored outside for years on end. I know from personal experience what happens to that kind of equipment when treated in that manner.
In contrast, I was once detailed to an inspection team to look at storage of the tanks, artillery, and other equipment we keep prepositioned in Europe. That equipment was kept in climate controlled buildings - we even looked at the temperature logs - and routinely maintained both by staff and by visiting units. Because if you don't do that, the shit goes bad fast. Batteries leak, tires dry rot, rust pops up everywhere....
The Russians don't do any of that, and that's not even mentioning the massive theft and crappy spare parts pipeline.
So believe whatever you want in whatever pro-Russian journals you read. I know that the reality of how much of that old Soviet-era equipment still actually works is very, very different.
Chunga85 is also probably every ‘ist’ or ‘ism’ that you can think of just because. You know? Because he doesn’t want anymore money or gear going to a corrupt government for something that has nothing to do with the US.
So yeah....Chunga85....Bad Man....just like Orange Man Bad....Chunga85 Bad.
“I’m not anti-American, I just hate America and the people who live in it!”
Who said that?
The only reason Ukraine is still in this, is the same reason Afghanistan didn’t become part of the Soviet Union.
The United States of America.
As for Russia’s cost in relation to ours.....WHO THE F**K CARES?
The US has its own problems. Based on numbers I saw on CNN, sadly, over 4,000,000 people have come across the border...that we know about. Probably the same that we don’t. And these are bad people.
Have you given any thought to what happens at the end of the month when Title 42 is over? What happens then? What happens when US hospitals are overrun with the 3rd world that is sick and dying?
But...Russia Bad...Ukraine Good. Ukraine need help
You do know that Ukraine has a battalion of foreign fighters. You can enlist and really help the fight it you want.
joefonebone wrote: Oh, and for the record, Florida has gotten 1.5 billion. Estimated damage is between 35 to 50 billion... but that’s ok
How many times should the Federal govt bail out Florida? After every hurricane the US gov’t spends billions. I think the people in Florida should pay for their own expenses. If you want to live in these nature prone disaster areas you take the financial risk. Why should the US govt pay for rebuilding a millionaires house on stilts on some beach front property?
This also goes for the fire prone areas in CA and such.
I grew up living next to a creek that flooded and covered the first floor of our house every 7 years or so. My dad finally got smart and moved to higher ground.
Flak Means You Are Over The Target Award.
Timber Rattler, I"m sorry the Putin Fan Club was not abusive enough toward you on this thread for me to fairly assign you the award. 😔
Better luck on next time, or in a hour when I check back. 👍
I stopped reading at “The cost that American taxpayers incur to help Ukraine is money well spent”.
Ukraine is not a national interest of the USA. The money is being sent to them because biden has something going with Ukraine that leads him to commit billions of American dollars to a corrupt regime.
Since WW-II, the US Navy has protected everyone else's trade, and US military presence abroad does serves as a deterrent. In spite of all the post WW-II conflics, the number of people killed per year in war has declined since roughly 1946. The US global presence is a large part of the reason for this.
This has allowed for the post WW-II global economic growth to happen. At the same time, a large part of the US does not want to get involved in world affairs. In my mind, having a dominating global presence and not wanting to get involved in foreign conflicts is a contradiction that has no simple resolution.
As many times as it takes retread. Our fedgov should show loyalty to any of our several States and none to foreign affairs. You probably don't have clue one how much we waste yearly on foreign adventures that hold no benefit to the average American. America first dillweed!
Interesting read. Thanks.
We’re all going to find out how all those words stack up in a few months.
Without doubt, we certainly can talk the talk, and spend money we don’t have on weapons and use them in malicious ways. It remains to be seen in we can walk the walk against an adversary that can fight back.
The US created a national security threat on Russia’s border and it is not going to go unchallenged.
We all should be able to agree on two points:
1) Democrats’ hatred for Russia comes from hatred for Trump and hatred for the fact that Russia isn’t marching lock-step towards Queer Nation.
2) The fact that Russia has reverted to the Soviet Union and decided to obliterate a nation of 40 million people is bad news.
(1) helped (2) happen, and may also explain why the Democrats are actually opposed to the New Soviet Union when they loved the old. But (1) doesn’t negate the truthfulness of (2), it merely explains why the Democrats haven’t embraced the anti-American Evil Empire for once.
“...the country will either be a firm member of the Euro-Atlantic community or become a Russian colony...”
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It doesn’t take long for the article to state false alternatives. The vast majority of Ukraine will remain intact as a sovereign nation that will have moderate ties to the West. But it will not be allowed by Russia to go full bore NATO without some kind of fight...just like we’d never have let Mexico join the Warsaw Pact without serious repercussions.
I just ran a test post to see if your article can be posted. This is what I got: "globalresearch.ca material not wanted on FR."
Freom Wikipedia: Michel Chossudovsky, the director of globalresearch.ca:
The Centre for Research on Globalization promotes conspiracy theories and falsehoods.[23] According to Peter Knight, it "published influential early articles alleging that the U.S. intelligence agencies had far more forewarning than they claimed" of the September 11 attacks.[24] that the United States and its allies fund al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, and that sarin gas was not used in the Khan Shaykhun chemical attack, which globalresearch.ca articles characterized as a false flag operation orchestrated by terrorists opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.[12][17] Other articles published on the site have asserted that the 7 July 2005 London bombings were perpetrated by the United States, Israel, and United Kingdom.[10] Chossudovsky has himself posted articles on the site which suggested that Osama bin Laden was a CIA asset, and accusing the United States, Israel and Britain of plotting to conquer the world.[10] The Centre has also promoted the Irish slavery myth, prompting a letter by more than 80 scholars debunking the myth.[22]I'll take the Hudson Institute, Hr McMaster over Globalresearch.ca or Douglas Macgregor any day.
Boy, you really are an ignorant person.
Of course they are related issues. Joe Biden secures Ukraine's borders. Joe Biden doesn't secure America's borders.
If you are unable see the relationship, that is Joe Biden, then you're either blind as a bat, unconcerned about America's borders, or you are an idiot.
Furthermore, he has the responsibility to secure one if those borders, can you name which one?
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