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50 shell-shocked teachers, staff flee chaotic Florida school district
NY Post ^ | 12/9/2022 | Selim Algar

Posted on 12/10/2022 8:54:17 AM PST by rod5591

Brevard County School District, held a heated meeting Thursday that offered an unvarnished and often disturbing glimpse into the state of its classrooms.

“On an everyday basis I am being attacked, scratched, headbutted, pushed, hit,” teacher Alicia Kelderhouse said. “I’ve had my hair pulled. I’ve had my throat gone for on multiple occasions.”

One teacher said her kids look at their devices “hundreds” of times each day and keep their earbuds in while lessons are in progress.

“Our students cannot look away from their phones,” she said. “They cannot stop texting.”

Ivey said classrooms have descended into chaos because kids no longer fear consequences.

“As a result, we are losing teachers en masse,” he said, calling disruptive students “clowns” who are impeding the education of their classmates.

Several speakers criticized Ivey at Thursday’s meeting, and highlighted that suspensions are in disproportionately high numbers to black students.

“Our children are not clowns,” said a local NAACP member. “They are not snot-nosed.” He accused Ivey of using “scare tactics” and “bullying” in pushing for disciplinary clampdowns.

Another speaker said the district should emphasize diversity, equity and inclusion in any new behavior code.

One parent argued that disruptive students — regardless of race — should be removed from classrooms.

“If you are throwing a chair in a classroom, you do not belong there,” she said. “I’m sorry. If you can’t behave, that’s not my child’s fault. My child’s education should not be hindered because that child doesn’t know how to behave. And by that child I don’t mean black, white, Hispanic or any other thing. I mean the child who wasn’t taught how to behave.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: arth; disrespectful; disruptive; nightmareschools; reasontohomeschool; school; teachersfedup
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To: martin_fierro

school district, martin_fierro wrote:
“Our children are not clowns,” said a local NAACP member. “They are not snot-nosed.”


Right... they are snot-nosed clowns from the hood looking for easy drugs.


21 posted on 12/10/2022 9:15:34 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“Teachers and their beloved unions have allowed this to happen.”

Huh? Can’t beat on the students, momma don’t believe their beautiful baby could ever be mean and unruly. That’s the problem. Plainly stated in the article. Send them home to learn via zoom.

My biggest complaint is that taxpayers pay for school buses yet the line of cars waiting to pick their kids up at the end of the day tells me my tax dollars are being wasted on school buses, either make the kids ride the buses or walk but pickups and drop offs in individual vehicles causes traffic congestion and requires extra staff to implement the loading and unloading of students whose mothers and fathers refuse to let them ride the bus.


22 posted on 12/10/2022 9:17:58 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: rod5591
'Our children are not clowns,' said a local NAACP member.

You're right, they're not clowns: They are violent terrorists.

And should be labeled as such.

23 posted on 12/10/2022 9:19:48 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Hieronymus

Ivey doesn’t take any cr@p. He reminds me a lot of Sheriff Joe Arpio. The libs in this area despise Sheriff Ivey. I’ve talked to libs who call him a effin ahole, and when I ask them for examples-crickets.
The article doesn’t say which school district this is occurring in. I live in Brevard, and I can pretty much narrow it down to two school districts, which won’t surprise me if I’m right. Punks.


24 posted on 12/10/2022 9:22:12 AM PST by GMThrust
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To: rod5591

There are devices available that will render the students “toys” inert.
USE THEM!


25 posted on 12/10/2022 9:22:20 AM PST by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: rod5591
Several speakers criticized Ivey at Thursday’s meeting, and highlighted that suspensions are in disproportionately high numbers to black students.

I wonder why that is?

26 posted on 12/10/2022 9:22:41 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: rod5591

Of course this is a hit piece of Florida. Broward is the most liberal county in the state, isn’t it? Anyway, this is not a problem that is exclusive to Florida. In every school system nation-wide, where the school is not allowed to implement any behavior and discipline protocols, the inmates are running the asylum. When there is no punishment for misbehavior, violence, etc, you are going to get more of the same.

Shocking, I know, but the school systems, and the parents, are the ones who have created this problem. Parents, because they raise hell if little Johnny is not allowed to use his phone in class, is punished for fighting, or failure to do any work. The schools because they are so afraid of offending someone, they refuse to demand proper behavior. Two or three older Marines in each school could straighten things out in a couple of weeks.


27 posted on 12/10/2022 9:26:31 AM PST by CFW
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To: ConservativeInPA

As I noted in post #14, I taught for decades in an urban public school. And I will tell you that there are bad teachers (no surprise there). And the teachers union is corrupt (again, no surprise).

But teachers and the union have nothing to do with what is being taught in the schools. And also nothing to do with the rules of discipline. That’s all decided by the school board and state. Teacher and union input is neither asked for nor wanted.

Sure, there are woke teachers who go off the rails. But most of the woke junk that’s being taught in the schools today is being mandated by woke school boards.

Let me give you one example. Our school board decided that the minimum grade on every test must be 50%. Anything less would be too harmful! So now if a kid puts his name on a test then goes to sleep, he gets 50%.

We teachers were incensed by this. No matter. A 50% minimum is now the rule. And if a teacher enters less than 50% for a student’s score, the computer automatically changes it to 50%.


28 posted on 12/10/2022 9:31:44 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: rod5591
On an everyday basis I am deflecting being attacked, scratched, headbutted, pushed, hit...

Cameras need to be immediately installed in classrooms, hallways, lunch areas, etc. - and then played back at these school board meetings for those like the NAACP rep who deny, excuse - or worse, defend the behavior at these schools.

29 posted on 12/10/2022 9:33:27 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Bon of Babble

Those teachers should get extra combat pay.


30 posted on 12/10/2022 9:44:50 AM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: Bon of Babble

> Cameras need to be immediately installed in classrooms, hallways, lunch areas, etc. <

Yes, indeed. As I noted earlier, I taught in an urban public school. And I never talked to a single teacher who didn’t want cameras everywhere.

You know who doesn’t want cameras? It’s the administrators. Cameras can record bad things happening. And that can lead to bad publicity for the school district. So no cameras, please.

We did have cameras in the hallways. But here’s the interesting thing. They always seemed to be “out of order” when a fight occurred in their vicinity. “Mr. Teacher, you say you got shoved by a student in the hallway. Sorry, but there’s no evidence. The camera was out of order.”


31 posted on 12/10/2022 9:45:57 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: rod5591

Spot on.


32 posted on 12/10/2022 9:49:04 AM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: PeterPrinciple

“It may be what is being taught and the teacher.”

It is perceptive geniuses like you who got education into the helpless state it is in.


33 posted on 12/10/2022 9:54:12 AM PST by odawg
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To: Highest Authority

Cell phone jammers are illegal.


34 posted on 12/10/2022 9:59:10 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: rod5591

One parent argued that disruptive students — regardless of race — should be removed from classrooms.

The victims are the children who want to learn. Get rid of the ones who don’t. After starving, stealing and incarceration for life they might get a message. I doubt it though. They are of a feral class. They have gone feral in just a couple of generations like pigs do. They are useless burdens of the rest of us and the only way to deal with them is to eliminate them one way or another. That is the only solution.


35 posted on 12/10/2022 10:05:35 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: odawg

“It may be what is being taught and the teacher.”

It is perceptive geniuses like you who got education into the helpless state it is in.


Explain your point.

If I had to sit in all these wokism classes with wokism teachers, I would have buds in my ears too. I acknowledged there are good teachers but these days they are few. In my day we had enough good teachers to overcome the bad. I don’t think it is true anymore.

Good teachers still attract good students without buds in their ears.

The problem is complex, I acknowledge that. The assumption in the article is that the teachers are ok. I challenged that.


36 posted on 12/10/2022 10:07:20 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: vetvetdoug
I am guessing that all of those unruly children are whites.

I read the comments at the NY Post and they said the problem students were at Cocoa Beach, the black side of town. Are they even students? Or as usual, the public schools are functioning as a baby sitting service for these future miscreants.

37 posted on 12/10/2022 10:09:36 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: DownInFlames

“Cell phone jammers are illegal.”

for civilians....

LEO can get authorization to use them—all it takes is the determination to do it to save the functioning of a school in the local jurisdiction.

There are two kinds of people in the world:

—Those who find reasons not to do something
—Those who do something


38 posted on 12/10/2022 10:11:01 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Hieronymus

You said: “I imagine most of the African African and the Carribean Africans are not the problem, and the worst ones are the ones who went, or whose ancestors went, to finishing school in New York and New England before heading down to pursue the dream of Florida man.”

Dead wrong, liberal breath...


39 posted on 12/10/2022 10:19:31 AM PST by rod5591
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To: PeterPrinciple

> Good teachers still attract good students without buds in their ears. <

I’d say that’s more correct on the college level. Students there are more mature, and they pretty much want to be in that classroom.

But it’s not true at the high school level, where I have experience. Students there are less mature, and so are more susceptible to group pressure. One kid with earbuds will inspire more kids to get out their earbuds.

Plus in high school, kids are forced to take classes they have no interest in. As an example of that, my school had an awesome carpentry program. It’s gone now (Bush II is responsible for that, but that’s another story). Those carpentry kids are now shoved into advanced algebra, a class they neither need nor want.

That algebra teacher can be the best teacher in the world. He’s going to have trouble with those kids.


40 posted on 12/10/2022 10:19:37 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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