Posted on 12/09/2022 11:12:34 AM PST by delta7
Merkel has basically said that the Minsk Agreement was to buy time for Ukraine to build up its army and never was there any intention of allowing the Russians in the Donbas to vote on their own future. Merkel admitted that they negotiated in bad faith with Putin simply to allow Ukraine time to fortify itself thereby buying time to build its army. She also said that at the time, NATO was weak and could not provide support to Kyiv to the extent they do currently. The Minsk agreements were signed to pretend to resolve the Donbas conflict.
The region was never Ukrainian territory. It was occupied by Russians for centuries. The people there had a right to their own lives. The Ukrainians demanded they no longer speak Russian and they sought to deny them even their own religion and they were to report to Kyiv – not Moscow. This was like Mexico reclaiming Texas and demanding English was to be outlawed and only Spanish was to be spoken and all religions were to be outlawed except allegiance to the Archbishop of Mexico.
Furthermore, two heads of state of Russia came from this region Ukraine claims is now theirs and not Russia’s. Does that mean that Kruschev who rebuilt Kiev after World War II and grew up in the Donbas and, of course, Brezhnev who was born there in the Donbas, were really Ukrainian? So the whole Cuban Missile Crisis was not with Russia but with Ukraine?
In truth, during the final signing of the agreement in Minsk, Belarus, the Ukrainian authorities had promised to commit to reforming their Constitution granting autonomy to Lugansk and Donetsk, allowing them to hold local elections in both regions to establish their own independent governments. Yet the Western press calls the Russian action an invasion of Ukrainian territory when Ukraine has refused to honor their word and negotiated in bad faith from the outset.
Make no mistake about it, the Ukrainians would create genocide and slaughter every last Ukrainian Russian as they immediately did in Odesa. Now Zelensky is desperate to create World War III all for Ukrainian hatred of Russians no different than the whole issue involving the Serbs v Austrians that started World War I. We are to die and risk nuclear war for Ukraine that has NEVER been anything but deceitful? We are being played for fools. Merkel has been frank and one must question WHY would Putin ever agree to any agreement with Ukraine when they NEVER comply with what they agree to. It is now abundantly clear that the Minsk agreements were NEVER intended to be carried out by the current Kyiv government. They were simply used to buy time to build up their forces for war against Russia.
While Merkel told Die Zeit that there should now be a negotiated settlement, the West has supported effectively genocide and refuses to acknowledge anything with regard to the Ukrainian Nazis who they have supported and protected against any prosecution that they carried out against the German Nazis for their war crimes.
Ukraine is at least the most corrupt country in Europe if not the entire world. Even the IMF refused to provide money last year because of the unbelievable corruption. Hunter Biden was put on a board to gain influence with Biden. I refused to deal with them because of unimaginable corruption. You do not count your fingers after shaking hands with the Ukrainian government, you check to see if you still even have an arm.
Western Media refuses to tell the truth and is pushing us into World War III by championing Ukraine without ever looking closely at the facts. We are on the wrong side of history that will be written how the West collapsed for the third time, but this time, taking America with it out of sheer arrogance.
NATO should never have been weak. We should never be weak.
Armstrong admits Nato was weak and no threat to Russia!
Thoughts from the leftist, neocon Zeepers?
Could you be the baddies?
It starts after he was appointed as the dancing marionette under Obama’s era of globalism or bust. It’s just as real as a wet market covid creation.
NATO should have been disbanded after the Wall fell.
NATO was kept going because we feared that the Western European countries would form their own continental army separate from us and would no longer need to buy our armaments.
Excuse me I read this propaganda piece.
Paragraph after paragraph told me what she said, without a single quote. Not one.
But I do love the tactic of claiming we tricked or forced Russia to invade Ukraine.
Like “He hit my fist with his nose! “
From the article:
“Merkel has basically said....”
Which is why there are no quotes.
She said no such thing.
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I guess Russia will not be so quick for a new agreement now or any agreement. Merkel should keep this secret.
No quotes. Hmmmmmm. Wonder why?
Could it be.... Propaganda!
Yeah why would we actually fear Russia?!
It’s not like they invaded Ukraine, keep threatening nuclear war, demanded we withdraw from half of NATO, and threatened to bomb London. /s
Or as if NATO member Poland expects a Russian attack, or that new NATO member Finland fears a Russian attack. /s
Or that Putin is a mentally ill sadistic tyrant with about half the world’s nukes under his control and a military alliance with China, Iran, Syria and North Korea. /s
Yeah why would anybody want that stupid NATO just because Russia is waging war in Europe, and not for the first time in recent years.
This is ridicuous.
Yeah it’s my fault a lengthy article states someone admitted something, and there are no quotes and loads of opinion.
An honest headline would be “We interpret Merkel’s comments to mean this....”
And you’d still need quotes! Geez
all as I have said, breaking agreements starts wars
When the Wall fell we sent the Chicago Boys into Russia because we wanted to jump start their oligarchy... er I mean... free market democracy.
It would seem we would be buddy-buddies with Russia given that the Chicago Boys being great students of the inestimable Uncle Miltie straightened everything out there. Also, we had numerous joint initiatives with Russia to protect their nuclear assets from getting sold to terrorists, working with them on the ISS, and numerous business ventures between Russian and American firms.
I guess Russia had no reason to go in and free the Donbas. After all America never invaded a country without a perfectly acceptable pretext except maybe Iraq, Syria, Libya, ...
The truth about how dumb Putinists are is surfacing. The West supposedly using stalling tactics to keep Ukraine alive after Russia's first invasion of the Donbass is not a bad thing.
That said, Merkel is a pathological liar who has undermined Ukraine and Europe since even before the war. Minsk II required Ukraine to unilaterally disarm. Russia claimed, despite having invaded, that it was not bound by Minsk because... they weren't even a party! They never invaded Ukraine! The 30,000 Russian troops coming and going in the donbass, all the modern tanks and heavy artillery videoed by the OSCE traveling into Ukraine from Russia, was just your imagination. All the "seperatist" leaders, sporting their Swastika armbands and busts of Joseph Stalin and weird National Bolshevic shit, though ALL of them were trained in Russia, were completely independent and natural born Ukrainians whether or not they were even from Ukraine. Thus Ukraine was meant to disarm and withdraw all its heavy armor and leave Russia to take even more territory at its leisure, Palestinian style, with constant harrassment and attacks on Ukrainian forces (which happened anyway even without Ukraine pulling back, except Ukraine would not let them take more territory).
Either way, Russia's plan all along was to undermine Ukrainian society, destroy their economy, subvert their leaders, and force them to capitulate without a fight, similar to how Russia subjugated Georgia after fortifying the so-called "separatist" region of South Ossetia. Russia actually believed they had succeeded and that Ukraine would collapse with a 3-day thrust into Ukraine taking Kyiv without a fight, because all their spies and sociologists told them Ukrainians would not resist. In fact, this was all just wish fulfillment padded on by drunk FSB agents who wrote reports their superiors wanted to hear.
And so 9 months into a war that was supposed to end in 3 days, Russia no longer has a plan, is now setting up for long term positional warfare, while the great hope is that they'll break the Ukrainian spirit with terror bombings on civilian infrastructure meant to force the population to submit to avoid freezing.
These too will fail, and all the Putinists on this forum will cry like the losers they are.
Would you be wanting the quotes in the original German?
If she said it in German and the English translation was quoted, that would be considered bad journalism.
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