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6-Year-Old Canadian Kid Child Suddenly Dead After Suffering “Massive Stroke” – Doctor Diagnosed her with “Myocarditis due to the Flu”
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 12/8/2022 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 12/08/2022 1:38:40 PM PST by wastedyears

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To: ransomnote

Nice wrap-up with the WEF roles.


61 posted on 12/08/2022 10:00:45 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: one guy in new jersey
Did you timewarp back to 1917 or something?

It felt like it, that flu was the sickest I can remember feeling, it took forever to recover. My two bouts with COVID were mild, the last was an only like a head cold. Nothing like that flu.

62 posted on 12/09/2022 3:13:47 AM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: ransomnote

The Pfizer and Modern a vaccines do carry an elevated risk for myocarditis, especially among young males. But let’s put it in perspective.

Myocarditis and mRNA Covid vaccines:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346

Myocarditis and smallpox vaccines:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5878341/

According to the BMJ article:

“Retrospective studies confirmed with prospective studies show that >10% of patients receiving the smallpox vaccine develop new-onset dyspnoea, chest pain or palpitations.” (page 1) Yikes!

and

“The incidence of confirmed myocarditis secondary to smallpox vaccination is estimated to be 16.1 per 100 000 service members, with a recent Department of Defense study estimating 12 per 100 000 in a review of 730 000 service members.” (See pages 6-7) That’s 0.012% - 0.016% (if I can still do math in my head).

According to the JAMA article, 1626 out of 192,405,448 developed myocarditis after the Covid vaccine. That’s less than 0.08/100,000, right? (yes, please check my math — doing this in my head.). Compared to 12/100,000 to 16/100,000 for the smallpox vaccine.

According to these studies, one is far more likely to develop myocarditis after a smallpox vaccine than a Covid vaccine. Still, there is an elevated risk with the Covid vaccines.

It’s easy (and quite fashionable on FR) to blame every illness and every death on the vaccines, and that’s their prerogative.

The little girl in question here had a severe case of influenza that required hospitalization. If you want to blame the Covid vaccine even though you have no evidence she even received that vaccine, you will do so because of your mindset, and despite the fact that only 7% of Canadian children five and under have been vaccinated against Covid:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/covid19-vaccination-kids-under-five-low-1.6641727

Now, you might claim “but she was six!” Okay, we don’t know when she turned six. It could have been a week before she died, or months before. Vaccination rates for children 5-11 are well below adult vaccination in Canada as well:

53.4% received one dose, 41.4% completed the primary series,
4.8% received the first booster, <0.1% received the second booster, and only 7.8% completed the primary series or received a booster within the past six months.

Link: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccination-coverage/

It is well known that vaccine-induced myocarditis occurs shortly after vaccination. So you are assuming that this little girl is among a tiny minority either way (7% - 7.8%), and blaming the vaccine, even though she had a severe case of influenza which her doctors say brought on the myocarditis and stroke and caused her death.

Simply from a statistical standpoint, even if you think her doctors are lying, it is far, far more likely the myocarditis and stroke were complications of her severe influenza. But you will continue to insist it was the vax against all odds. No amount of evidence will change your mind.

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All vaccines (and medications) carry risks. No vaccines work perfectly (aside from a very few, such as rabies vaccine). The Covid vaccines carry some risks, as do smallpox and other vaccines. No, they did not work anything like perfectly at preventing Covid, and lost what efficacy they had over time and as the virus mutated.

Contracting Covid carries risks, some severe and lasting. The vaccines carry risks. It was up to each person to weigh the risks of each and decide. True, all the risks of the vaccines were not known early on, and that seems unfair, but the alternative was to wait ten+ years while the vaccines went through the usual trials. We knew the vaccines were issued via EUA and all long-term side effects were unknown.

Yes, we were told the vaccines were “safe and effective” and it turned out they were not as effective as advertised. They were not perfectly safe, either (but, according to available research, safer than smallpox vaccines when it comes to myocarditis and other issues). It’s possible other long-term side effects might emerge in time. I can understand why people are upset.

I have always been and still am firmly against vaccine mandates. It is especially galling to mandate vaccines issued under an EUA, and should be illegal, IMHO.

Attributing every death to the vaccines, no matter how unlikely, no matter how much another cause is far more likely, makes one look hysterical and undermines one’s credibility. This does not help the anti-mandate cause.


63 posted on 12/09/2022 4:56:43 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: dforest

dforest wrote: “The doctors diagnose according to what the government tells them or they will be forced from their jobs. That is why they have become willing accomplices in the tragedy unfolding from these fake vaxes.”

No, there isn’t a conspiracy of hundreds of thousands of medical professional complicit in providing false autopsies. Nor are these fake vaxes.


64 posted on 12/09/2022 5:29:45 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: metmom

metmom wrote: “Considering the level of lying the medical community, the government, hospitals, big pharma, and their shot shill minions like you have gas lit us with, it’s a very reasonable conclusion that the vax is the problem.”

The lying comes from the grifters like Malone, Mercola, etc., who are using your fear to enrich themselves. They are the epitome of gaslighting.


65 posted on 12/09/2022 5:31:41 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: wastedyears

wastedyears wrote: “You keep dismissing it. I’m happy with my mostly intact immune system. If you decided to destroy yours, that’s your prerogative.”

I only ‘dismiss’ fake news about the vaccines. I’m happy with my immune system enhanced by the vaccines. Not ‘destroyed’ but enhanced.


66 posted on 12/09/2022 5:33:31 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: ransomnote

Keep in mind, Covid is a bioweapon from China. We were seeing these things before the vaccine but we weren’t seeing the numbers because people weren’t getting Covid that much. I didn’t get Covid until September of this year. I had a mild bout of Myocarditis that went away in a few weeks.

Anyone under 40 that is getting the vaccine is probably taking a risk as Covid is not as much of a risk.

What we don’t know is whether these people had a recent bout of Covid or a recent vaccination. We are just guessing.

Also issues with the Flu which is terrible this year.


67 posted on 12/09/2022 7:09:41 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: DugwayDuke

And it’s big pharma which is profiting massively by their fear porn pushing people into taking their poison shots.

Not buying your accusations about men who use their real names and actually have impressive credentials, unlike you and your fellow $hot $hill$.


68 posted on 12/09/2022 7:19:15 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect

Hopefully once and done with that 1917-redux.


69 posted on 12/09/2022 7:32:45 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: metmom

metmom wrote: “Not buying your accusations about men who use their real names and actually have impressive credentials, unlike you and your fellow $hot $hill$.”

Malone’s anti-vaxxer newsletter is $5 per month and he has over 130,000 subscribers. That’s almost $8M per year.

Here’s what Quackwatch had to say aboout Mercola:
https://quackwatch.org/11ind/mercola/


70 posted on 12/09/2022 7:41:41 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: AppyPappy

Good points. Another problem is relying on VAERS. The vax doomers claim “it’s the tip of the iceberg” but in reality anyone can report anything to VAERS, including hypochondriacs, people self-diagnosing all sorts of conditions the are not competent to diagnose, people paranoid about the vaccines after reading garbage in The Expose, and vax doomers who are flat lying in an effort to push their agenda and “prove” it right. Healthcare professionals are required to report *any* serious side effect or death following vaccination, even if the vaccine had nothing to do with the symptom, illness or death.

In a year in which more adults received a vaccine than in any other, and this vaccine was using a new technology and issued under an EUA, and there has been so much fearporn over it, it’s no wonder the numbers be interpreted as scary, especially when manipulated by ignorant and/or unscrupulous vax doom grifters.


71 posted on 12/09/2022 8:11:47 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

Perhaps so. But the question remains: Whichever potentially lethal “vaccine” she received, it didn’t protect her from catching the flu or the fauci flu.


72 posted on 12/09/2022 8:14:42 AM PST by glennaro (Never give up ... never give in ... never surrender ... and enjoy every minute of doing so.)
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To: wastedyears

There is zero in proof the vaccines destroy your immune system.

The extended lockdowns really did weaken our immune systems.

Me, I’m happy with my natural immunity (had the original Covid very early, then got Omicron). No, I have not been vaccinated.


73 posted on 12/09/2022 8:18:23 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: glennaro

That happens often, and has happened in past years. There are usually several flu strains circulating simultaneously, so if you are exposed to a strain not included in the vaccine, the vaccine does no good. Some years, they guess wrong about which strain(s) will be dominant in the next flu season, and in those years the vaccines have very little effect. It also takes time to develop immunity after a flu shot; it isn’t instantaneous. Finally, almost no vaccine is 100% effective (with rabies vaccine being a rare exception).


74 posted on 12/09/2022 8:24:44 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
Look at the graph again and you will see that Covid 'vaccines' are unprecedented in their level of harm when compared to all other vaccines combined, including smallpox.

Now the rest of your excuse making pretends the graph does not exist, and ignores the fact that it's CDC data, and therefore just the tip of the iceberg.

When smallpox vaccines become worst than Covid vaccines, we'll know they have reconfigured the smallpox vaccine on the mRNA platform already, because Fauci said the Covid mRNA platform was so successful that all vaccines going forward would use the technology.

If/when the smallpox vaccine becomes mRNA based, then Covid vaccine deaths and harm will have a competitor for death/vaccine harm, along with any other mRNA vaccine.

This sentence is false "According to the JAMA article, 1626 out of 192,405,448 developed myocarditis after the Covid vaccine. "

And this one is false to a bizarre degree "According to these studies, one is far more likely to develop myocarditis after a smallpox vaccine than a Covid vaccine. Still, there is an elevated risk with the Covid "

I see nothing in your response but smarmy whitewashing apologetics from a pharma-phile defending the CDC 'narrative'.

75 posted on 12/09/2022 10:11:43 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
"Look at the graph again and you will see that Covid 'vaccines' are unprecedented in their level of harm when compared to all other vaccines combined, including smallpox."

And they are STILL pushing them. Even forcing them on children. SMH

76 posted on 12/09/2022 10:17:06 AM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America.)
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To: ransomnote

You keep posting a graph purportedly based on VAERS data from an unknown site you have never provided a link for. How about a link? Who can gauge its credibility with no link, no explanation of how the VAERS data was gathered and interpreted? Are you ashamed of your source?

Furthermore, see my #71 for how VAERS actually works:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4114885/posts?page=71#71

>>>Ransomnote wrote “This sentence is false “According to the JAMA article, 1626 out of 192,405,448 developed myocarditis after the Covid vaccine.””<<<<<

Did you not check the JAMA article? Or can you not read? It clearly states:

“Among 192 405 448 persons receiving a total of 354 100 845 mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines during the study period, there were 1991 reports of myocarditis to VAERS and 1626 of these reports met the case definition of myocarditis.”

Here’s the link again. Please check it this time:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346

How can you possibly claim that was a false statement?

>>>>Random note wrote: “And this one is false to a bizarre degree “According to these studies, one is far more likely to develop myocarditis after a smallpox vaccine than a Covid vaccine. Still, there is an elevated risk with the Covid.””<<<<<<

Really, dear? How so? I proved its truth it my post #63.

Here is the proof again, quoted from my #63:

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“The incidence of confirmed myocarditis secondary to smallpox vaccination is estimated to be 16.1 per 100 000 service members, with a recent Department of Defense study estimating 12 per 100 000 in a review of 730 000 service members.” (See pages 6-7)

[Link (again) to BMJ article referenced in quote above:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5878341/ ]

According to the JAMA article, 1626 out of 192,405,448 developed myocarditis after the Covid vaccine. That’s less than 0.08/100,000, right? (yes, please check my math — doing this in my head.). Compared to 12/100,000 to 16/100,000 for the smallpox vaccine.
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So, are you claiming that a 0.8 per 100,000 incidence after Covid vaccine is not lower than the 12 per 100,000 or 16 per 100,000 incidence after the smallpox vaccine? Really? If you are having trouble doing math or understanding these numbers, perhaps you could ask someone to help you.

>>>>>Ransomnote wrote: “I see nothing in your response but smarmy whitewashing apologetics from a pharma-phile defending the CDC ‘narrative’.”<<<<<<

I see nothing but someone plugging her ears and shouting “no no no no” in yours. See above. You just say “false” with zero proof to back it up. I provided proof. As for the last bit, insults and name calling do not help your case, but rather are the mark of desperation from one who has no facts or reputable references to back up her case. And especially rich coming from someone who has repeatedly shilled for donations for The Expose here, a site run by some machine shop guy in England.

I also note you did not address the high likelihood the little girl in question never received any Covid vaccine. Hmm. Yet you insist it was the vaccine that killed her, not the severe case of influenza she had. Interesting.


77 posted on 12/09/2022 11:12:15 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Pajamajan

I agree it’s wrong to push these vaccines on children. Agree all the way. But see my #63. It’s highly unlikely this little girl ever received the Covid vaccine.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4114885/posts?page=63#63


78 posted on 12/09/2022 11:17:26 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
You don't know that she did not receive the vaccine.

Perhaps the most helpful thing would be for medical professionals to see if there is a link?

The problem is, it seems that when anyone attempts to ask any questions about this possibility, they are threatened and bullied into silence.

This is telling in and of itself.

Add to that, the recent approval of these "vaccines" for children, which provides instant liability protection for multi-billion dollar Big Pharma, and more questions arise.

Every case of a child having or dying from Myocarditis should at least be looked into for a vax connection, not immediately dismissed as not possible.

It does not appear that protecting children is the goal of Big Pharma in this case.

Have you seen the movie "Died Suddenly"?

79 posted on 12/09/2022 11:47:43 AM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America.)
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To: CatHerd
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled 6-Year-Old Canadian Kid Child Suddenly Dead After Suffering “Massive Stroke” – Doctor Diagnosed her with “Myocarditis due to the Flu”CatHerd wrote:

Good points. Another problem is relying on VAERS. The vax doomers claim “it’s the tip of the iceberg” but in reality anyone can report anything to VAERS, including hypochondriacs, people self-diagnosing all sorts of conditions the are not competent to diagnose, people paranoid about the vaccines after reading garbage in The Expose, and vax doomers who are flat lying in an effort to push their agenda and “prove” it right. Healthcare professionals are required to report *any* serious side effect or death following vaccination, even if the vaccine had nothing to do with the symptom, illness or death.

In a year in which more adults received a vaccine than in any other, and this vaccine was using a new technology and issued under an EUA, and there has been so much fearporn over it, it’s no wonder the numbers be interpreted as scary, especially when manipulated by ignorant and/or unscrupulous vax doom grifters.

I'm reliably informed that putting stuff in tables makes a post much more persuasive. 

But I digress.

The consistent effort to make the least compelling, and often least relevant information the most prominent objection to the vax mandates used to give me a headache.  When everyone latched on to VAERS, and trying to claim that it could show what it clearly could not I remember trying to point out that several researchers in Israel had, very early on, used VAERS to formulate the hypothesis that the vaccines could be inducing myocarditis.  Turns out, they showed that it could, and even went further, and identified a population that was most at risk, and even provided an estimate of the frequency, which has turned out to have been a remarkably good early estimate.

The net effect in the public discourse has been to make it exceedingly easy for the Faucis of the world to paint anyone pointing out that there are some serious negative side effects with the current batch of mRNA vaccines as an ignorant rube who is repeating stupid internet rumors about VAERS.  Of course it's a bad faith argument, but that's what we have to expect from our current crop of government officials.  The worst of the anti-vax hysteria here on FR is a brilliant example of that same sort of reletless self-strawmanning that's occurred in the wider world.


80 posted on 12/09/2022 12:03:23 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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