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To: AppyPappy

Good points. Another problem is relying on VAERS. The vax doomers claim “it’s the tip of the iceberg” but in reality anyone can report anything to VAERS, including hypochondriacs, people self-diagnosing all sorts of conditions the are not competent to diagnose, people paranoid about the vaccines after reading garbage in The Expose, and vax doomers who are flat lying in an effort to push their agenda and “prove” it right. Healthcare professionals are required to report *any* serious side effect or death following vaccination, even if the vaccine had nothing to do with the symptom, illness or death.

In a year in which more adults received a vaccine than in any other, and this vaccine was using a new technology and issued under an EUA, and there has been so much fearporn over it, it’s no wonder the numbers be interpreted as scary, especially when manipulated by ignorant and/or unscrupulous vax doom grifters.


71 posted on 12/09/2022 8:11:47 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled 6-Year-Old Canadian Kid Child Suddenly Dead After Suffering “Massive Stroke” – Doctor Diagnosed her with “Myocarditis due to the Flu”CatHerd wrote:

Good points. Another problem is relying on VAERS. The vax doomers claim “it’s the tip of the iceberg” but in reality anyone can report anything to VAERS, including hypochondriacs, people self-diagnosing all sorts of conditions the are not competent to diagnose, people paranoid about the vaccines after reading garbage in The Expose, and vax doomers who are flat lying in an effort to push their agenda and “prove” it right. Healthcare professionals are required to report *any* serious side effect or death following vaccination, even if the vaccine had nothing to do with the symptom, illness or death.

In a year in which more adults received a vaccine than in any other, and this vaccine was using a new technology and issued under an EUA, and there has been so much fearporn over it, it’s no wonder the numbers be interpreted as scary, especially when manipulated by ignorant and/or unscrupulous vax doom grifters.

I'm reliably informed that putting stuff in tables makes a post much more persuasive. 

But I digress.

The consistent effort to make the least compelling, and often least relevant information the most prominent objection to the vax mandates used to give me a headache.  When everyone latched on to VAERS, and trying to claim that it could show what it clearly could not I remember trying to point out that several researchers in Israel had, very early on, used VAERS to formulate the hypothesis that the vaccines could be inducing myocarditis.  Turns out, they showed that it could, and even went further, and identified a population that was most at risk, and even provided an estimate of the frequency, which has turned out to have been a remarkably good early estimate.

The net effect in the public discourse has been to make it exceedingly easy for the Faucis of the world to paint anyone pointing out that there are some serious negative side effects with the current batch of mRNA vaccines as an ignorant rube who is repeating stupid internet rumors about VAERS.  Of course it's a bad faith argument, but that's what we have to expect from our current crop of government officials.  The worst of the anti-vax hysteria here on FR is a brilliant example of that same sort of reletless self-strawmanning that's occurred in the wider world.


80 posted on 12/09/2022 12:03:23 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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