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SAVING THE WORLD WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES
Poerline ^ | December 6,2022 | BY JOHN HINDERAKER

Posted on 12/06/2022 5:47:22 PM PST by Hojczyk

The Department of Energy’s Argonne National Lab has just released a study showing that in 2021, US privately-owned plugin hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) and electric vehicles (EVs) “saved about 690 million gallons of gasoline.”

But that is a huge exaggeration because fossil fuels provide 61% of the electricity in the US … so only about a third of that apparent savings is a real reduction in fossil fuel use, the equivalent of maybe 130 million gallons.

The Argonne report also says that from 2010 to 2021, EVs have saved 2.1 billion gallons of gas. So let’s be generous and say that in 11 years, EVs have saved about a third of that, the equivalent of about 750 million gallons of gas.

Now that sure sounds like a lot of gasoline, three-quarters of a billion gallons.

However, as always, a sense of perspective is required. The US uses about 370 million gallons of gas per day … so that’s only about two days’ worth of gas.

I say again. Over the last eleven years, electric vehicles in the US have saved Two. Days. Worth. Of. Gasoline.

At enormous cost:

Direct taxpayer subsidies for EVs have cost you and me $10 billion dollars to date, and we’re on the hook for more. The government just extended the EV subsidy until 2032 and removed the cap on the number of vehicles eligible for the subsidy.

It gets worse. The US government also just approved spending an additional $7.5 billion of taxpayer money on EV charging stations.

So to date, we’re spending TWENTY-THREE DOLLARS for each gallon of gasoline saved … economic suicide.

And all of the world’s worst countries are laughing at us.

Electric vehicles have been around for well over a century, but they lost out to internal combustion vehicles because gas-powered cars are cheaper and better. That is still true today, regardless of how many billions of dollars governments shovel at subsidies for electric vehicles.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; electric; electricvehicles; ev; evs; poerline; scam; subsidy
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To: Hojczyk
Electric vehicles are good for the environment and the GAIA Erf Mother -
Because they don't cause any pollution at all.

/Sarc

21 posted on 12/06/2022 6:19:41 PM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: Hojczyk

EV’s do save gas. Because of range anxiety, owners don’t travel much, staying off the road when they’d otherwise be burning gas.


22 posted on 12/06/2022 6:20:50 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Hojczyk

And where is the analysis that shows how much energy is expended creating the batteries, wind towers and solar collectors?


23 posted on 12/06/2022 6:22:13 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: TexasGator
Considering a NG combined cycle generating station

I actually owned a hybrid Ford Contour that was supposed to burn CNG. That part of it didn't work, so I had to run it on gasoline. Awful car. CNG was $1.80/gallon equivalent (gasoline was $3.80 at the time in 2014), and filling the tank (less capacity) was under 10 minutes. But if it doesn't work, it is worthless.

I was just trying to save the money, not the planet. Big mistake. (I had no chance to test the CNG portion as the car was in Jacksonville, FL when I bought it, with no CNG stations nearby)
24 posted on 12/06/2022 6:22:58 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: GaltAdonis

Ah, if we could only harness the btu’s of burning EV batteries, we’d have this sh!t licked!


25 posted on 12/06/2022 6:23:14 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Hojczyk

We need a perpetual energy source, a perpetual motion machine.

It seems like everytime we exert effort to distill alcohol or transmit electricity or move energy fro a to b we lose a little.

That has got to stop. sarc needed?


26 posted on 12/06/2022 6:23:41 PM PST by spintreebob (ki .)
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To: Tell It Right


But for what it's worth, my EV costs about 4.7¢ for every mile driven.

ok mr holy

tell us about lithium mining absolutely raping the environment.

and you'll have to replace them (if you can) or trash the car and buy another.      very environmentally friendly

btw       I sincerely hope the car doesn't burn down your house


27 posted on 12/06/2022 6:23:59 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Karliner
what happens when there's no coal and nuke plants? What happens indeed?

Because of winter and the impact of the Europe energy crisis, Switzerland (a very wealthy and high technical country) has orders at the ready to ban EV's in order to have enough electricity for homes etc

28 posted on 12/06/2022 6:26:13 PM PST by llevrok (Pronouns: Me/myself/& I)
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To: Hojczyk

Technology isn’t here yet,
Ideal would be electric, with Hydrogen based fuel cells.
We just can’t capture all the energy the sun gives us.
If we could, it would be Jake.
It isn’t wind, and our solar cells ain’t all that great.
Need fusion power, miniature suns. Other than bombs we aren’t doing very good with fusion.


29 posted on 12/06/2022 6:33:05 PM PST by rellic
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To: llevrok


Because of winter and the impact of the Europe energy crisis, Switzerland (a very wealthy and high technical country) has orders at the ready to ban EV's in order to have enough electricity for homes etc



california has already had occasion to tell its unfortunate 'citizens' to pull the plug on their Excrement Vehicles


30 posted on 12/06/2022 6:34:28 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Tell It Right

LOL! Will you still be smiling when the gooberment taxes you by the mile? But, more important, to replace the present ICE fleet would require 100+ more lithium strip mines. Think in terms of 500,000 lbs of dirt processed for enough lithium to make one large lithium battery. The tailings from these mines are quite toxic. Not to mention the cobalt mining, etc. Grid needs to be expanded ten times to charge all the crab. If course, the 190 new lithium mines and 10x expanded power grid are not going to happen. The plan is for a whole lot of us to be driving in the not too distant future, or perhaps a whole lot if us not to be around to drive.


31 posted on 12/06/2022 6:36:13 PM PST by suijuris (Once a man learns to see he finds himself alone in the world with nothing but folly.)
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To: PLMerite
"... if we could only harness the btu’s..."

Darn right!

32 posted on 12/06/2022 6:37:12 PM PST by GaltAdonis
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To: suijuris

Opps, that is a whole lot of us NOT to be driving.


33 posted on 12/06/2022 6:38:50 PM PST by suijuris (Once a man learns to see he finds himself alone in the world with nothing but folly.)
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To: TexasGator

If you want to drive an EV, knock yourself out, just let the rest of us choose what we want to drive.


34 posted on 12/06/2022 6:39:37 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: TexasGator

Thing is NG should even be cheaper to use at power plants, as its often found in oil fields when bringing up the oil. In the psst they just burnt it off, but hell, put it in a pipeline to a bunch of power plants.


35 posted on 12/06/2022 6:41:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: wjcsux

“If you want to drive an EV, knock yourself out, just let the rest of us choose what we want to drive.”

Counter to my facts? Wrong tact. I have never suggested that anyone should drive an EV.


36 posted on 12/06/2022 6:43:40 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: TexasGator

Don’t expect us to subsidize your EV either.


37 posted on 12/06/2022 6:44:42 PM PST by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Thing is NG should even be cheaper to use at power plants, as its often found in oil fields when bringing up the oil. In the psst they just burnt it off, but hell, put it in a pipeline to a bunch of power plants.”

I wasn’t considering costs. Just efficiency.


38 posted on 12/06/2022 6:46:49 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: suijuris


The plan is for a whole lot of us to be driving in the not too distant future, or perhaps a whole lot if us not to be around to drive.

this is what the absolute dumbnut ev freaks don't grasp

ev replacing oil is TOTALLY UNACHIEVABLE AND UNSUSTAINABLE

the deep state simply wants to take away our mobility and therefore our freedom

intelligence is the ability to discern the TRUTH


39 posted on 12/06/2022 6:47:38 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: wjcsux

“Don’t expect us to subsidize your EV either.”

Don’t worry. I don’t and you won’t.


40 posted on 12/06/2022 6:49:48 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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