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To: Robert DeLong; Jim Noble

Again, you are trying to apply contract law where it is not applicable. If you won’t believe those of us here on FR who have tried to explain that to you, again, please consult a Constitutional lawyer, or even one specializing in contract law. Or any lawyer. Surely you must know a lawyer, or there is one who attends your church.

The Constitution is not a contract. It simply is not. I suppose one might think of it as a sort of covenant, but that’s a real stretch. Why do you suppose Constitutional law and contract law are two separate branches? Hmm?

The Constitution gives state legislatures the power to appoint Electors. Nothing more, nothing less. Please read it. No power was usurped from the state legislatures, either.

Of course there are ways of fighting fraud through the courts, as I and others have told you. The window for doing that has closed. The state legislators duly appointed their Electors, those Electors duly cast their votes and they were duly counted. There was no fraud whatsoever in that process. Even Trump has not claimed there was. It’s done and cannot Constitutionally be undone, no matter what you wish or think or say.


144 posted on 12/06/2022 11:38:12 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
I'm sorry but you are wrong. It's a contract between the 50 states that make up the United States, and the Federal Government. It defines the power that the Federal Government has, and that all not specifically mentioned in the Constitution refer back to the individual states for them to decide at the state level.

That was why Roe v Wade was overturned, thus placing the decision back upon the states, where it belonged all along, whether to legalize abortion or not.

If the U.S. Constitution were not a contract it would not take amendments to alter it.

Citizens who live within one of the 50 states, share the rights afforded to them by both the state & the U.S. constitutions.

That's one of the reasons draconian gun laws are overturned, because the U.S. constitution take precedence over the state constitution if the U.S. constitution makes specific mention as they do in the 2nd Amendment.

As for why there are Constitutional lawyers, and Contract lawyers is akin to the medical profession and the specializing in an area of medicine, only this is specialization within law. While some understand contract law as it deals with contracts between two or more people, they may not understand some of the more finite understanding & rulings regrading constitutional law, and its contractual agreements with the citizens on either the state or federal level.

Sometimes states try to overreach (misuse) laws such as eminent domain. When they do a landowner can take the state or federal government to court. How would they be able to do that if constitutions were not contracts?

Again, I will reiterate that there is no limit to rectify fraud. Show me where that limits exists. You, and others, mistakenly believe that to be the case . If an election is fraudulently certified, it is still a case of fraud.

It may make for a constitutional crisis, but there is nothing that says once an election is certified there is no remedy.

In addition, when the Supreme Court made the ruling it merely stated: “FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING”, it didn't limit that ruling to just written or verbal contracts. It included everything.

160 posted on 12/06/2022 1:44:34 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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