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A Baseline Understanding Mostly Missing Behind the Twitter Discussion – Govt Influence Over Social Media Influence and the Surveillance State (ELON MUSK INTERVIEW)
conservative treehouse ^ | 12/3/2022 | sundance

Posted on 12/04/2022 11:25:53 AM PST by bitt

I am ONE Hour into listening to the Three-Hour broadcast that Elon Musk joined tonight {YouTube Here}, and the amount of cognitive dissonance and circular discussion is off the proverbial charts.

Elon Musk joins the “Twitter Stages” conversation at 01:03:00 of the VIDEO HERE. Musk noted that in addition to Matt Taibbi he has given the Twitter files to Bari Weiss. However, the debate over what DC bureaucrats did -and are doing- from within the Biden administration, to censor speech, take down social media content and stop information adverse to their political interests, is a futile conversation without the full understanding of the current U.S. surveillance state.

Some of the stage participants on the call with Mr. Musk have self-identified as targeted by the intelligence community, some are under active and ongoing investigation, yet they do not seem to have an understanding of what this U.S. social media surveillance system is.

We cannot fight our way through the issues until we first realize what lies at the root of the problem.

Barack Obama and Eric Holder did not create a weaponized DOJ and FBI; the institutions were already weaponized by the Patriot Act. What Obama and Holder did was take the preexisting system and retool it, so the weapons of government only targeted one side of the political continuum.

This point is where many people understandably get confused.

Elevator Speech:

(1) The Patriot Act turned the intel surveillance radar from foreign searches for terrorists to domestic searches for terrorists.

(2) Obama/Biden then redefined what is a “terrorist” to include their political opposition.

DEEP DIVE:

In the era shortly after 9/11 the DC national security apparatus, instructed by Vice President Dick Cheney, was constructed to preserve continuity of government and simultaneously view all Americans as potential threats. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) were created specifically for this purpose.

After 9/11/01 the electronic surveillance system that was originally created to monitor threats from abroad was retooled to monitor threats inside our country. That is when all of our electronic ‘metadata’ came under federal surveillance.

That inflection point, and the process that followed, was exactly what Edward Snowden tried to point out.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; 9112001; elonmuskinterview; sept11; september11; twitter

1 posted on 12/04/2022 11:25:53 AM PST by bitt
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2 posted on 12/04/2022 11:26:03 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=50%>)
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To: bitt

Truth be told, the US Gov’t wants control of all media and social media just like the BBC in the UK, which is essentially gov’t run, funded, a gov’t mouth piece, etc.


3 posted on 12/04/2022 11:29:46 AM PST by cranked
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To: bitt
So the gov is our Pimp (legalized prostitution)
our drug dealer (doesn't enforce drug laws but takes tax dollars from drug sales)
and our booze seller and now they want to be our official social media influencer. What a blast.
4 posted on 12/04/2022 12:12:59 PM PST by The Louiswu (- .-. ..- -- .--. / ..--- ----- ..--- ....-)
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To: bitt
I remember thinking in the runup to the 2020 election how it resembled a color revolution.

Assuming those dots in the article are connected accurately, 2020 and 2022 are attempts at "continuity of government", just not the government we learned about in civics class.

2016 caught them offguard.

Have to wonder if a day is coming when we will see files getting torched like the Stasi did after German reunification....

5 posted on 12/04/2022 12:14:30 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: bitt

thanx for posting

will circle back to read rest of the article later


6 posted on 12/04/2022 12:22:05 PM PST by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: bitt; GOPJ
When it came to the intelligence system targeting Donald Trump during the 2015/2016 primary, the GOP was just as much at risk as their Democrat counterparts.

the GOP was just as much at risk a threat as their Democrat counterparts.

7 posted on 12/04/2022 12:37:45 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: bitt

All because of 9/11.


8 posted on 12/04/2022 12:44:47 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Some people think 9/11 was an inside job. I’m not saying me, but some people.

The FedGov sure did come out the winner after 9/11. Guess they were just lucky.


9 posted on 12/04/2022 1:12:27 PM PST by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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The FedGov sure did come out the winner after 9/11. Guess they were just lucky.

I agree. They took advantage of it and didn't drop the ball. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were "useful idiots". I believe they meant well. But they've built this mass surveillance program and handed it over to Obama and Biden. And here we are. The terrorists are no longer in the Middle East. It's ordinary Americans like you and me.

10 posted on 12/04/2022 1:59:25 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
...the GOP was just as much at risk a threat as their Democrat counterparts

...and continue as such!

11 posted on 12/04/2022 2:07:35 PM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Never let a crisis go to waste!

The issue is never the issue. It’s ALWAYS the Revolution!


12 posted on 12/04/2022 2:10:02 PM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: bitt

A very long and well written piece by Sundance.

Here’s a quote short enough to be read by Freepers:

“In many ways, the coordinated political outcomes in Libya and Egypt (Arab Spring 2010-2012) were the beta test for the coordinated domestic political outcomes we saw in the 2020 U.S. presidential election. The U.S. intelligence community working with social media platforms and political operatives.”

Not earth shattering, but it shows how Sundance goes WAY back to explain how the intel community came to run the US government.

But hey, just keep voting and pretend it matters.


13 posted on 12/04/2022 2:16:53 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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Snowden is an American hero deserving a place on Rushmore.


14 posted on 12/04/2022 3:05:25 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: bitt

Bkmk


15 posted on 12/04/2022 3:12:09 PM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: Sarcazmo

Everything changed on 09/11/2001. /Captain Obvious, I know


16 posted on 12/04/2022 3:23:38 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: bitt

Bflr.


17 posted on 12/04/2022 5:29:26 PM PST by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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