Posted on 12/01/2022 7:07:10 PM PST by semimojo
A judge in Arizona on Thursday ordered the governing board of a ruby-red county in the southeastern corner of the state to certify the results of the Nov. 8 election, finding that its members had no authority to shirk a duty required under state law...
The denouement in Cochise County played out as a federal judge, also on Thursday, sanctioned lawyers for Kari Lake and Mark Finchem, the unsuccessful GOP candidates for governor and secretary of state, respectively. Taken together, the orders show how judges are scorning efforts to politicize ministerial roles and undermine election administration.
The federal judge, John Tuchi of the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona, wrote that sanctions would “make clear that the Court will not condone litigants … furthering false narratives that baselessly undermine public trust at a time of increasing disinformation about, and distrust in, the democratic process.”
Attorneys for Lake and Finchem went unnamed in the judge’s order, which directed Maricopa County to detail their attorneys’ fees within 14 days. Among attorneys listed by the candidates in court filings was Alan Dershowitz, the former Harvard Law School professor who has previously advised former president Donald Trump.
The case was financed largely by MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, who has promoted debunked claims about voter fraud....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
“the Court will not condone litigants … furthering false narratives that baselessly undermine public trust at a time of increasing disinformation about, and distrust in, the democratic process”
very interesting law analysis
In other words, certification is a meaningless rite designed to make the common folks think their votes are meaningful.
We cannot hear your case because *** I *** think it is false, despite the fact that I have not reviewed evidence.
You know what actually undermines public trust in the process? Seeing fraud and being denied any opportunity to present your case. Being denied the right to a lawyer because they are sanctioned for representing you. Being silenced on most social media.
The federal judge, John Tuchi of the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona, wrote that sanctions would “make clear that the Court will not condone litigants … furthering false narratives that baselessly undermine public trust at a time of increasing disinformation about, and distrust in, the democratic process.”
if he gets tired of being a judge
he can always become a LEFTY journalist
he hit all the talking points
WTF?!
If the certification has a legitimate beef if the count in their counties then they have every right to not certify the count until it can be reconciliated.
Otherwise there’s not even a reason to have certification other than as a participation trophy.
If the court is saying that the certifiers think their count is fine and are just stonewalling the results that’s a valid ruling. But the court is still inserting itself into a political process that, for some reason, they never seem to do when the results swing the other way.
If you force someone to certify something they think is fraudulent, they have no duty to obey.
And as long as no one is willing to stop the beatings, the beating will go on. When lies become truth then the true becomes a lie. Thanks to the injustice system all WILL comply. Not pretty but pretty simple.
Well, the judge is full of crap, and the WaPo is full of crap, but certification does mean (1) post-election lawsuits can go forward, and (2) the newly-won Congressional seat is now safely Republican.
Judge John Tuchi appointed by Obama
Supposedly the law requires them to certify their county election if their count is complete, which it was in Cochise County.
The supervisors didn't have any problems with their own canvass.
They weren't asked to certify Maricopa County's results, and they think Cochise County's results were fine.
Scripted.
What if they can't?
Great point. They are proving that it is a uniparty democracy and no longer the Republic.
If the Successor state to USA is what we hope it is, Voting processes need to be codified in the Constitution, complete with Voter IDs
Why even have a certification process if they have no choice except to certify no matter what.
If they got their money, they capitulated.
“If the court is saying that the certifiers think their count is fine and are just stonewalling the results that’s a valid ruling.”
That IS the problem. No one is claiming or suggesting any irregularities with the vote in Cochise County. The Supervisors have refused to certify it as a political protest against the certification that took place in Maricopa County. That is a poor reason to prevent the votes in Cochise County from being part of the election.
As for the sanctions...that sound like BS to me! Sanctions are rare and require the lawyers sanctioned to have ZERO basis for their case. I don’t think Maricopa had fraud but it sure as heck had a ton of stuff that should not have happened!
If an election has to be “certified” to be official, then there should be an official procedure to follow should a State, county, or precinct, not certify an election results.
Is there a law that says a county MUST, no matter what, certify and make official the counting results of an election? What if a election supervisor states, “Candidate A received 10,000 more votes than their opponent, and thus is elected” even though there is no evidence of such balloting or even that anyone voted? Must the county officials certify that election? Who decides?
What I’m asking is “is there procedures in the election statues stating what happens should a county not certify their election”? What is the law? Surely, on such an important matter there is a part (c) that states: “should a county not certify the election results.....then....” procedure happens. Such has obviously happened before, so what does the law state? I can’t find that information.
If not, there should be, because otherwise the election law is vague and unenforceable since there is no “should this not happen” paragraph telling the voters what will happen next.
For legislatures not to have addressed this issue, especially after 2016 and 2020, is a dereliction of duty on their part and a deliberate muddying of the waters when it comes to elections. There should be procedures in place instead of lawsuits! What does the law say??????
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