I am afraid, dear Machavelli, that it is you who needs to enlighten yourself. Even in Donbas the Russians are only around 40% of the population. Only Crimea has a ethnic Russian majority.
Population of ethnic Ukrainians in Ukraine by oblast (2001)
Posted on 12/01/2022 4:12:11 AM PST by Timber Rattler
When Russia invaded Ukraine in February, nobody in President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle is believed to have expected the war to last more than a few months.
As the weather turns cold once again, and back to the freezing and muddy conditions that Russia’s invading forces experienced at the start of the conflict, Moscow faces what’s likely to be months more fighting, military losses and potential defeat.
That, Russian political analysts say, will be catastrophic for Putin and the Kremlin, who have banked Russia’s global capital on winning the war against Ukraine. They told CNBC that anxiety was rising in Moscow over how the war was progressing.
“Since September, I see a lot of changes [in Russia] and a lot of fears,” Tatiana Stanovaya, a nonresident scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and founder and head of political analysis firm R.Politik, told CNBC.
“For the first time since the war started people are beginning to consider the worst-case scenario, that Russia can lose, and they don’t see and don’t understand how Russia can get out from this conflict without being destroyed. People are very anxious, they believe that what is going on is a disaster,” she said Monday.
Putin has tried to distance himself from a series of humiliating defeats on the battlefield for Russia, first with the withdrawal from the Kyiv region in northern Ukraine, then the withdrawal from Kharkiv in northeastern Ukraine and recently, the withdrawal from a chunk of Kherson in southern Ukraine, a region that Putin had said was Russia’s “forever” only six weeks before the retreat. Needless to say, that latest withdrawal darkened the mood even among the most ardent Putin supporters.
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The longer Russia stays in this war, the more destroyed they will be. They should cut their losses sooner than later.
Few here understand what is going to happen when the ground freezes solid in the next month.
It would be good if Russia won (or lost) on their dime. I have major problems with sending dollars to fight this war while I hear from senate ‘leaders’ that social security needs cut to save it?
“Putin has tried to distance himself from a series of humiliating defeats on the battlefield for Russia, first with the withdrawal from the Kyiv region in northern Ukraine, then the withdrawal from Kharkiv in northeastern Ukraine and recently, the withdrawal from a chunk of Kherson in southern Ukraine, a region that Putin had said was Russia’s “forever” only six weeks before the retreat.”
According to Putards, I thought these were glorious military strategic moves that were being celebrated by the masses in Russia-—Putin should be crowing about it!!
don’t ping me to threads I’m not part of
Why Comrade Jon, are we cranky this morning?
The article is very misleading. There is indeed certain confusion in Russia on why the war is fought with both hands ties behind the back.
And yes, there is a universal understanding that they can’t afford to lose it.
The conclusion is obvious. The public want escalation for a win.
Hush Putard
stop stalking me, and stop pinging me to threads I’m not a part of.
Wow, desperate.
Really looking bad!
Exercise the Mussolini option.
You need to enlighten yourself. The eastern half of Ukraine is over 50% Russian. Furthermore, Obama instigated an overthrow of a “democracy” to put in the dictator Zelensky. Now if the tables were turned and Russia had done the same thing to us by “taking over” Mexico, and then kept hounding a NATO-analogue to to accept Mexico into their alliance, then you might understand the situation in a different light. Biden kept poking the bear by pushing NATO membership for Ukraine (never mind the millions paid to the Biden crime syndicate by Ukraine). Russia needs a ice free sea port and it would be on the Black Sea, so this is understandable.
I understand the Russian winter offense is now underway and they are advancing. But, who knows????
Drinking early today?
>>You need to enlighten yourself. The eastern half of Ukraine is over 50% Russian.
They are Ukrainian citizens, not Russians. By your reasoning the ethnic Mexicans who are US citizens can rise up and declare a “reconquista” seperatist country in California and if the US military clamped down you would be ok if Mexico invades to “save them”.
So much BS so early, not going to bother commenting on your post any further.
Furthermore, Obama instigated an overthrow of a “democracy” to put in the dictator Zelensky. Now if the tables were turned and Russia had done the same thing to us by “taking over” Mexico, and then kept hounding a NATO-analogue to to accept Mexico into their alliance, then you might understand the situation in a different light. Biden kept poking the bear by pushing NATO membership for Ukraine (never mind the millions paid to the Biden crime syndicate by Ukraine). Russia needs a ice free sea port and it would be on the Black Sea, so this is understandable.
Of course he is getting cranky, it’s getting cold in Moscow and he probably wants to leave that place. I understand that.
I am afraid, dear Machavelli, that it is you who needs to enlighten yourself. Even in Donbas the Russians are only around 40% of the population. Only Crimea has a ethnic Russian majority.
Population of ethnic Ukrainians in Ukraine by oblast (2001)
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