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Colorado Springs shooter’s non-binary claim won’t stop hate crime charges, legal experts say
Yahoo! News ^ | November 24, 2022 | By Namita Singh

Posted on 11/24/2022 6:51:56 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The Colorado Springs shooting suspect’s gender identity will not stop the authorities from bringing in hate crime charges against them, legal experts claim.

… The suspect’s gender identity is “not relevant," Neama Rahmani, president of West Coast Trial Lawyers and a former federal prosecutor, told Insider. "Obviously the defense will want to get it in, but it’s not a defense."

"It’s certainly something that the defense would try to use, but it’s not in and of itself a bar from hate crime charges depending on what the other evidence is," Brian Levin, professor of criminal justice at California State University, San Bernardino, was quoted as saying by the Insider.

"The notion that because someone might belong to a group does not mean that some ... dispute revolving around that group membership or issue would negate hate crime charges," he added.

Meanwhile, the court has ordered that the suspect be held in custody without bail.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aldrich; clubq; culturewar; homosexualagenda; perverts
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s mandatory in order to be in the LGBTLMNOP that you hate yourself most of all.


61 posted on 11/24/2022 9:06:23 AM PST by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Too bad Colorado ditched the death penalty. I say execute the perp immediately.


62 posted on 11/24/2022 9:12:48 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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To: Regulator

You mean that trial that, almost, no one heard of because it wasn’t mentioned by the msm?
That trial?


63 posted on 11/24/2022 9:28:03 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Regulator

The whole hate crime is such BS. The crime is the crime what you were thinking should have no relevance.


64 posted on 11/24/2022 9:28:36 AM PST by iamgalt
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
" . . . but it’s not in and of itself a bar from hate crime charges depending on what the other evidence is . . . "

Well, what IS the other evidence? Have police been able to interview the suspect? Do they have a motive?
65 posted on 11/24/2022 9:44:47 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Trump20162020

Feds probably have higher conviction rates than any other level of government, given last I heard it is 90+%.


66 posted on 11/24/2022 9:59:01 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Eagles6

Wait, what trial?!

Lemme see now...haven’t seen/heard anything on CNN/ABC/NBC/SeeBS/LGBTQIAA++...must not exist


67 posted on 11/24/2022 11:07:18 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Regulator

Yep


68 posted on 11/24/2022 11:17:30 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: SuzyQue

You’re right.

People would have to prove in court that they loved the dead victim or their ethnic or racial group. Or “I was indifferent to the guy before I shot him.” If they don’t “hate” the victim then they have a funny way of showing their affection.


69 posted on 11/24/2022 11:31:59 AM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: cgbg

70 posted on 11/24/2022 11:33:20 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: napscoordinator
His father is a piece of work. He was worried that he was gay more than the fact he was a murderer yard. I’m a conservative Republican and I don’t want to get a kid, but he doesn’t mind a murder kid. something wrong with the whole family.

He's a drug addict who was featured on a 2009 episode of "Intervention" where he clamed to shoot meth and masturbate for 10-12 hours a day while his wife didn't know what to do about it.

He was also on an episode of "Divorce Court" where he divorced Aldrich's mother.

His IMDB page under Dick Delaware lists a whopping 326 porn films to his credit between 2003-2016. He was married for much of this time.

Yeah, "conservative Republican values" caused this.

71 posted on 11/24/2022 11:54:22 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: euram

By this logic, drive-by-es in Chicago are hate crimes, because Gang A “hates those f@#$ n@#$s” in Gang B, so shoots them, plus any bystanders who happen to be around, or family members of Gang B, too. It’s not about turf or business disputes, or vendettas or personal matters, but if the victims happen to be black, the perps’ black-ness does not save them from “hate crime” classification. It’s the identity of the victim that makes it a “hate crime”. This grows curiouser and curiouser.


72 posted on 11/24/2022 2:10:08 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: euram

By this logic, drive-by-es in Chicago are hate crimes, because Gang A “hates those f@#$ n@#$s” in Gang B, so shoots them, plus any bystanders who happen to be around, or family members of Gang B, too. It’s not about turf or business disputes, or vendettas or personal matters, but if the victims happen to be black, the perps’ black-ness does not save them from “hate crime” classification. It’s the identity of the victim that makes it a “hate crime”. This grows curiouser and curiouser.


73 posted on 11/24/2022 2:10:15 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s a “new type of hate” doncha know.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/club-q-owner-says-colorado-springs-shooting-comes-amid-a-new-type-of-hate


74 posted on 11/25/2022 5:50:33 AM PST by rwa265
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