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Harvard-Harris poll, GOP 2024 Primary: Trump 46, DeSantis 28, Pence 7.
Real Clear Politics ^ | November 18, 2022

Posted on 11/18/2022 7:04:05 PM PST by Kazan

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To: wiseprince

We should have won the House by a comfortable margin even if Trump had done nothing. Historically, the party holding the WH loses big in the midterm. That didn’t happen.

Several of Trump’s high profile endorsements lost. Oz, Dixon, Laxalt, Masters, Lake, Mastriano, Michels are notable examples. And if the aforementioned candidates, only one ,Lake, is fighting. It also looks like Palin in Alaska is going to lose and Walker’s chances in GA look slim .

A leader who wanted McConnell replaced as minority leader in the Senate would have gotten the job done. Instead, Trump got embarrassed as most of the Senate Republicans sent Trump a big FU and voted to keep McConnell.

It remains to be seen if historians in the near future credit Trump from preventing the Democrats from keeping the House or if they assign at least some of the blame for the Republicans poor showing on Trump.


81 posted on 11/19/2022 8:02:21 AM PST by Armscor38
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To: Armscor38

We see things differently. No one gave Trump an F-U. They gave their constituents, the American people an FU. Mitch is at 7% support nationwide (Thanks to the weakness and ineffectiveness of Trump) and the Repukes still support him fully. That says a lot. It also says a lot that people like DeSantis don’t speak out against him. You can always choose to run with safe people who will not rock the boat. Trump chose to go with a team that if they won, could help fix the country. Just getting an R elected isn’t the point and since Trump gets that, he shows himself to be a true leader for the period. You’re hilarious. Historians...hahah. I will gladly go down swinging. The DeSantis’, Romenys of the world don’t understand this moment, don’t get where the country is and clearly don’t see how fast its going there


82 posted on 11/19/2022 8:13:30 AM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: wiseprince

You can go down swinging. I prefer to come out on top.


83 posted on 11/19/2022 8:35:45 AM PST by Armscor38
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To: Armscor38

Not all “wins” are created equally. Thr Senate just passed a specific “marriage” bill that couldn’t get past the California electorate 10 years ago. That is what winning at all cost does.


84 posted on 11/19/2022 8:46:18 AM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: central_va
Where else are you going to go?

How does Trump win the election?

How does Trump win at least three of the following:

AZ
WI
MI
PA
NV
GA

Explain this to me. Sell it to me.

85 posted on 11/19/2022 11:23:22 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Drew68
Trump needs to get a huge turnout. I think 80 million equals an electoral victory. 80 million will be enough to cover the fraud. NO OTHER HUMAN ON EARTH CAN/COULD GET 80 Mil REAL VOTES.

To get 80 million Trump only needs to improve his '20 total by 8%. That is very do-able. DeSantis would not get 80 million. He would not crack 70 million.

You think Joe BiteMe's 81 million in 2020 was legitmate. That means you are basically naive and a little slow. I've said this before; 81 million was IMO peak fraud. No way post COVID they can steal near that again.

86 posted on 11/19/2022 12:15:26 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Armscor38

If


87 posted on 11/19/2022 12:16:32 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
Trump needs to get a huge turnout.

Duh.

How does Donald Trump convince the independent voters that he lost in 2018, 2020, and 2022 to return to him in 2024?

88 posted on 11/19/2022 2:57:06 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Because they liked him then and don’t like him now?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oh well, it seems you have a problem with understanding that polls are illusory.

Just like elections, they are no longer accurate.

They are manipulated.

You saw the numbers before Trump annpounce........suddeenly the country hates him.

Its all illusory. What is not illusory is conduct.Watch how people act not what they say or the fake data they spew into the MSM lefty whackp spere.

They are afraid of Trump beciase he reperesents the people and wanst to run the ation based on the COnstitution. The Commies want to run the nation based on an ever evolving ideology whichi will indeed doom the nation if continued.

So because of that risk of doom, yuo need to understand. Its not business as usual.

And those who fall for the created illusions based on the so called science of polling are the same as those who base their loyalty to a cause on the fake science of man made climate change.

Support Maga ! Defy the fake polls.

Or get thee to a nunnery as a RINO troll.


89 posted on 11/20/2022 5:03:38 AM PST by Candor7
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To: Candor7
Oh well, it seems you have a problem with understanding that polls are illusory.

No, I just have a problem with the those who tell us that the polls are real when they show Trump having lots of support, but fake when they show he has lost support.

If they're fake and manipulated, then they should be ignored regardless of what the numbers are.

That's my point. My personal belief that he has lost support isn't based on polls, but rather on my ordinary conversations with people in real life. You're experience may be different, and that's fine.

90 posted on 11/20/2022 5:43:24 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Oh Wow?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4111184/posts

Poll: Donald Trump Holds 30-Point Lead over 2024 GOP Primary Field


91 posted on 11/22/2022 4:36:55 PM PST by Candor7
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To: Armscor38

Polls are all bogus, simply propaganda. Trumps win iin 2016 killed them.

Polls are mere propaganda, and rely on illusion.

The only poll you need is to see tens of thousands of Americans turning out for Trump rallies, while the likes of Pence and Desantis might get a few hundred.

Welcome to the real world.


92 posted on 11/23/2022 3:36:23 AM PST by Candor7
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