Posted on 11/17/2022 10:25:40 AM PST by Eleutheria5
Today, we analyse the news of a missile strike in Poland, close to the Ukrainian border, discuss the diplomatic moves made at the G20 in Indonesia and we interview Dr Olga Onuch about Ukrainian politics, society & democracy.
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Democracy in Ukraine? Where’s the sarc tag?
I guess the neocons are no longer trying to make the World safe for Democracy and Free Markets. They are now making the World safe for oligarchy and rigged markets.
Why don’t you just listen to the video. You’re repeating the same crap I’ve heard a thousand times, and quite frankly, it’s boring as well as simplistic. The video has a lot of information. You might agree or disagree with some or all, but just doing the Planet of The Apes Forbidden Zone scene over the title is old.
Can you have democracy in country with no opposition parties, arrested opposition leadership, total state control of the media and any dissention on social media immediately arrested?
I would argue we finally have a democracy. Now may the ones who scream the loudest prosper over the meek regardless of the law.
I’ve said this since the beginning of this war - There are only extremely limited bits of freedom in Ukraine. Why is the US defending a non-free country?
Because it’s BS. I know your tastes run from mild to extra spicy BS and you’ll ravenously devour your normal quantities of today’s crap du jour. Me, I’ll pass, thank you very much.
Democracy is a process, not a political state.
Democracy is a complex process. You think America went straight into an unalloyed democracy? Ever hear of the Alien and Sedition Act? Suspension of Habeas Corpus and censorship during the War Between the States and both world wars? The party machines throughout the late 19th and early 20th Centuries? Read JS Mills’ Thoughts on Representative Government.
America is a Republic, whose democratic factors are currently badly maimed. But it’s hardly the first time. Ukraine aspires to democracy, but has centuries of oppression and unrest to overcome, plus an Eastern European habit of corruption, drunkenness, and backwardness.
The war is not about democracy one way or another. If Ukraine were an absolute dictatorship and kleptocracy like Russia, simple decency, geopolitics, and the Budapest Memorandum would require the US to stand up for the people of Ukraine, regardless of who was President there.
But to the extent that democracy does have a tenuous, embryonic hold in Ukraine, it makes sense to analyze it objectively.
Of course not. So democracy died in the US in 1861, then?
First, there is the matter of what “democracy” means to the globalists. Cram a sex toy up your backside to experience their version of “democracy.” Or don’t and just oppose these people and everything they stand for.
Heavy man, heavy. I better write that down. A bunch of DC oligarchs bedding a bunch of Uke oligarchs is not a democratic process.
I see. So you’re not interested in this thread, but you just have to crap all over it. Pass your brain farts out of my hearing, thank you very much.
Why is the US defending a non-free country?
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Because the USA used to stand for freedom, not for bucks;
Because the USA used to defend innocent people against invaders, hell bend on genocide.
Then you leave yourself open to manipulation, like a little kid who won’t eat his spinach.
I don’t GAGS what is and is not democracy to the globalists. Ever hear of it? It’s called thinking for yourself.
How’s Moscow today, getting chilly?
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